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As simple as I can put it. They can not hold you down and stick a needle in you. Work wise? They won't sack you. The vaccine would have to be written into law for grounds to sack people. That would never happen. All just scare tactics at the moment.
 

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As simple as I can put it. They can not hold you down and stick a needle in you. Work wise? They won't sack you. The vaccine would have to be written into law for grounds to sack people. That would never happen. All just scare tactics at the moment.
Thanks it’s such a worry at the moment I fear my life will be doomed they don’t care about peoples mental health do they? Did we have this during Spanish flu? It feels like it’s never ending. And my gran is 105 and doesn’t want it they can’t barge into her house and give her the jab can they?
 

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With any form of vaccination you have to sign a consent form first. They can't hold you down and just stick you. You do have rights. In this case the right to say no.
 
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With this vaccine you can still catch the virus. They are a long way off real vaccine. 100% proof. I would not mind what the media is saying right now.
 

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With this vaccine you can still catch the virus. They are a long way off real vaccine. 100% proof. I would not mind what the media is saying right now.
I am heading that a lot right now where is the proof it still transmits? I have heard nurses having the vaccine and catching COVID still. So if the vaccine doesn’t work they won’t allow us a normal life will they? Or will they just accept that people won’t get as ill due to the vaccine?
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I have been feeling anxious as I have had another day where I argued online about the vaccines so this has made me feel anxious also very stressed about lockdown I am finding it hard going to work and having nothing else to do with my time?
Has anybody got any tips to help
Me relax?
 

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You can read about your vaccine on your NHS web site. On our health board site it tells you you can still catch and transmit the virus. Thus things will carry on as normal. Masks and social distancing. A better one will come alone. With this one, if you get the virus, it will be weaker because you had the vaccine. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

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We need to have an open debate there will be people who don’t have this vaccine and they could ban people from stuff https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rticle-9156901 I don’t want an anti vaccine or pro vaccine debate but if this did happen I am genuinely concerned about my own mental health and others. I had a friend with lockdown feel suicidal thoughts. A two tier society where people are banned from stuff it’s very scary. I know I have mentioned this loads but it’s a very serious issue and this is a mental health forum. Never in history have we seen any disease see people banned from stuff. I know how divisive this issue is like masks but I wish people would listen if I did not take this vaccine and I was banned I can’t tell you how low I would feel about not being able to go anywhere. I don’t know why society cant accept a small amount may not want this vaccine and leave people be sorry for the rant but feel it’s important I don’t want to see people isolated in society due to the way we live in the 2020’s which seems to be banning censoring and closing down president accounts. I honestly feel the best of life was in the past as today really sucks?
 
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The vaccine passport story again my life will be doomed banned from travel abroad if I refuse this vaccine life really sucks anybody cheer me up?

 

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One of those were we all just have to wait and see. For what you are talking about it would have to be written in law. If it is not written into law, By refusing it you are not breaking any laws. For now it is not a law. Much like all other things with Covid. They were never laws. More just recommenedations. Some people assumed they were laws. But pubs and the likes could have all opened. Just like they done in Italy this week. they all got together and just opened their doors. They were not breaking any laws by doing so. Because none of what we have all been following are laws. For that to happen it would have to pass through government. Then through a higher court. People could challenge it in court. We all know there are loads of people out there who do not want the vaccine.
 

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I seen another story bbc this time about people 31 and 36 on oxygen. I have definitely noticed an increase in scare stories. I believe I read a few weeks back the government wanted the media to film in hospitals to make people listen to the lockdown. Course this increases my anxiety my first thought is everybody is getting ill and they say today more deadly to make people worry more. They would have us believing millions are dying of COVID that’s how it feels.

How much should we worry when they say the new strain is more deadly?
And we could be locked down until summer do you see normality ever returning like Spanish flu passed?
 

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There are a few strains out there. The one from Brazil is said to be the easiest one to catch. true or false it is hard to tell. There is another one from South Africa. Then we have the UK strain. Case of make your own mind up on what you hear. Just keep doing the right thing and you should be fine.
 

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I think the covid thing is making me worry a lot as I think about dying every day like not just myself but I worry others will die and everybody’s doomed can anybody make me feel any better?
 

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Hard to not hear the news and about all the deaths. Even all over social media. If you lock yourself away in a log cabin in the middle of nowhere, might be the only way to escape hearing about it. But we all know that is not possible. Just one of those things. We have to live with it all around us. No getting away from it.
 

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Interesting one to keep an eye on. You would imagine that might be for kids. Like the flu vaccine. Kids get a different one than adults. Would be a lot easier on some people. But would still have to be made from something. Something that would go into the body to protect the person.
 

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Interesting one to keep an eye on. You would imagine that might be for kids. Like the flu vaccine. Kids get a different one than adults. Would be a lot easier on some people. But would still have to be made from something. Something that would go into the body to protect the person.
Yep that’s what I think but maybe adults can use it too if they don’t want a jab?
 

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Let us hope so. If people who never take vaccines agree to take that option, they might be allowed to. Better than getting nothing at all.
 
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