Objects moving faster than speed of light

[ras]

In science a lot of it is theory, and as in anxiety theory does very little to help. The 'Big Bang' theory is a good example. It's fine to say that the universe came from a big cloud of gas exploding, (reminds me of some politicians!!), but where did the big cloud of gas come from? Creation is virtually impossible to comprehend. As for why bother, well why bother with anything? It does make an interesting conversation and maybe it's good for us to concentrate on something other than ourselves.

I personally don't believe in the creation of the universe, I simply just think it has always been there. But then people tell me that is has to start somewhere from something. But I think it doesn't have to, I think time doesn't really exist. We made up time to work in our society and it does. This creates the illusion that everything has to start from something. But in the big picture it doesn't have to be. We have no proof that everything came from something and it is very hard to believe that it is that way. But just try and see the small picture why we believe in something and then try to see big picture and you can realize it doesn't have to be that way just because that is how it is in our society.

 

[MATD]

I personally don't believe in the creation of the universe, I simply just think it has always been there. But then people tell me that is has to start somewhere from something. But I think it doesn't have to, I think time doesn't really exist. We made up time to work in our society and it does. This creates the illusion that everything has to start from something. But in the big picture it doesn't have to be. We have no proof that everything came from something and it is very hard to believe that it is that way. But just try and see the small picture why wee believe in something and then try to see big picture and you can realize it doesn't have to be that way just because that is how it is in our society.

The proof is right in front of our face but we can’t see it because of our own self imposed limitations and beliefs. What if life always existed but the life we now know is not what it was originally intended to be? That somewhere along the way the purpose was changed?

 

[ras]

The proof is right in front of our face but we can’t see it because of our own self imposed limitations and beliefs. What if life always existed but the life we now know is not what it was originally intended to be? That somewhere along the way the purpose was changed?

What do you think life might have changed from? And what do you think the purpose was?
My answer is that I don't think there was life before? I mean what is life? What is alive and what is not? If me as a human is alive and a tree is alive, then why isn't our phones and other electronics alive? That means the universe itself is alive.
And the purpose? I don't think there is a purpose, we just happened to be conscious because of some chemical reaction, we were not intended to be conscious or even created.
I wanna hear your view

 

[MATD]

You exist, therefore you are. How could there be a chemical reaction unless there was a cause and purpose for it, otherwise it couldn’t exist. How could life exist unless there was a cause and purpose. Something cannot come from nothing, nothing means nothing, which cannot create anything, no chemical reactions, no life, absolutely nothing. Nothing takes up no space or time. But yet here we are. You mentioned that you study the universe, it’s obvious that you have a purpose within yourself, to uncover the mysteries of it. I wonder why the universe is there and where did it come from? What is it’s purpose to us as humans? We can’t eat it, we can’t live in it without huge efforts and resources from our own planet and then it’s a very limited endeavor. Why even ask these questions if we don’t believe there is purpose? To ask questions is to have a purpose, to find answers.

 

[ras]

You exist, therefore you are. How could there be a chemical reaction unless there was a cause and purpose for it, otherwise it couldn’t exist. How could life exist unless there was a cause and purpose. Something cannot come from nothing, nothing means nothing, which cannot create anything, no chemical reactions, no life, absolutely nothing. Nothing takes up no space or time. But yet here we are. You mentioned that you study the universe, it’s obvious that you have a purpose within yourself, to uncover the mysteries of it. I wonder why the universe is there and where did it come from? What is it’s purpose to us as humans? We can’t eat it, we can’t live in it without huge efforts and resources from our own planet and then it’s a very limited endeavor. Why even ask these questions if we don’t believe there is purpose? To ask questions is to have a purpose, to find answers.

I don't think you need to have a purpose for something to exist. And as you said nothing can't be created by nothing. Therefor there has always been something there, anything was never created, it has always been there but maybe just in a different form of matter.

 

[Jonathan123]

The big problem with all this is that we humans have created a world where there are certain specifics we adhere to. Such as beginning and end, as I said before. Birth and death. But does any of this apply to the universe? We need a whole new vocabulary to describe it and mathematical equations do attempt this. Einstein's theory of relativity changed so much thinking, and many others have come up with similar ideas, but no one as yet can describe creation or who or what began it all. And here we go again! Was it begun or has it always been?

 

[ras]

The big problem with all this is that we humans have created a world where there are certain specifics we adhere to. Such as beginning and end, as I said before. Birth and death. But does any of this apply to the universe? We need a whole new vocabulary to describe it and mathematical equations do attempt this. Einstein's theory of relativity changed so much thinking, and many others have come up with similar ideas, but no one as yet can describe creation or who or what began it all. And here we go again! Was it begun or has it always been?

exactly!

 

[bin_tenn]

The big problem with all this is that we humans have created a world where there are certain specifics we adhere to. Such as beginning and end, as I said before. Birth and death. But does any of this apply to the universe? We need a whole new vocabulary to describe it and mathematical equations do attempt this. Einstein's theory of relativity changed so much thinking, and many others have come up with similar ideas, but no one as yet can describe creation or who or what began it all. And here we go again! Was it begun or has it always been?

Yes, exactly. We've created the constraints that we know and believe. The universe, however, is not governed by us; it's the universe that governs us.

 

[ras]

I did some more research!
I found that the laws of physics doesn't always apply in space for certain things. Which means there actually isn't any laws just most of the things follows the "laws".
So as I said, we haven'y been told everything.
I found this when I was researching about black holes, in order for something to enter a black hole they need to accelerate to a speed faster than speed of light.(breaks the laws).
and then I talked to my brother who is also very into space and he said that potentially when big bang happened it was such extreme heat that things didn't behave like the laws of physics say, so that things could actually have been traveling at a faster rate than speed of light.

I feel like I have found my answer now!

 

[PieFan]

 

[Jonathan123]

I want that stuff too. It's fun conversations
sorry if I am being unclear

Well, it does take our minds off ourselves if only for a short time, which can only be good. You are fortunate to have an enquiring mind. But that can be a two edged sword. Being curious can lead us up some dark alleys.
Perhaps a lot of it is not for us to know because it could blow our minds. The ancient Greeks and many other philosophers tried to sort it all out, and many are still at it today. Sir James Jeans, the once Astronomer Royal said, 'The more I look into the universe the more I see a great intelligence at work'. He was right. But what that intelligence is or why it is there is down to individual beliefs. Unfortunately, as MATD says, the ego can get in the way of any objective research. The world so often revolves around ME and MY problems. Seeing the big picture can prove very difficult.

 

[PieFan]

Being curious can lead us up some dark alleys.

It's interesting @Jonathan123 I've been supporting a young mum and in encouraging her to do some relaxing things she's chosen to watch some shows. I haven't seen them, I don't have Netflix or stuff, but I did notice all the themes are a bit grim and what I've seen of the filming and background music it makes me jump and on edge. We get addicted to adrenaline maybe.

 

[Joshua1]

I believe the universe is eternal as God is. But i also believe God created worlds and solar systems at certain times in eternity. But the actual universe base, the darkness is eternal. putting a time on the universe is ageing God. That is impossible in my view.

 

[ras]

I believe the universe is eternal as God is. But i also believe God created worlds and solar systems at certain times in eternity. But the actual universe base, the darkness is eternal. putting a time on the universe is ageing God. That is impossible in my view.

Intreating view! Thanks for sharing. Me personally don’t believe in god.