Question about Covid

[LotusTree]

Hello. Regular poster here, major HA.
> I am double Vaccinated and so is my boyfriend. I stick pretty close to home and I’m pretty careful with my practices. He is more open to being in rooms with a lot of people, and might have even been in one last night with people taking their masks off to eat cake. We have always disagreed on this. He lives in another city and we’ve been planning to have a visit in my city this weekend. But I get very anxious about this Worried that he may have caught it already or will. No time to get a test and of course it can take awhile to show up in the body. I’ve been reading some articles in quality publications about the fact that Covid is going to be here forever and that we will all get it at some point it just depends when according to our practises and we of course May not get it as badly as if we were unvaccinated. This makes sense to me even though it scares me a lot. I live with my elderly father and would never want to give it to him (he is double vaxxed too but 93).
Any thoughts? I really want to see my boyfriend because we only do so every three weeks or so but we disagree on how we approach Covid, but I have also considered ending the relationship because I get so anxious about it (don’t even totally enjoy our time together anymore, soooooo preoccupied and nervous). This would make me extremely sad as I really love the guy.
someone knowledgeable (close to me, they present on Covid regularly) confirmed that it’s here with us forever so to get busy or get busy dying. What to do, what to do :-/
N.B. Don’t want to hear from any conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxxers, negative types, etc.
thank you
I believe I have posted about the same situation awhile back so thank you for your patience.

Hello. Regular poster here, major HA.
> I am double Vaccinated and so is my boyfriend. I stick pretty close to home and I’m pretty careful with my practices. He is more open to being in rooms with a lot of people, and might have even been in one last night with people taking their masks off to eat cake. We have always disagreed on this. He lives in another city and we’ve been planning to have a visit in my city this weekend. But I get very anxious about this Worried that he may have caught it already or will. No time to get a test and of course it can take awhile to show up in the body. I’ve been reading some articles in quality publications about the fact that Covid is going to be here forever and that we will all get it at some point it just depends when according to our practises and we of course May not get it as badly as if we were unvaccinated. This makes sense to me even though it scares me a lot. I live with my elderly father and would never want to give it to him (he is double vaxxed too but 93).
Any thoughts? I really want to see my boyfriend because we only do so every three weeks or so but we disagree on how we approach Covid, but I have also considered ending the relationship because I get so anxious about it (don’t even totally enjoy our time together anymore, soooooo preoccupied and nervous). This would make me extremely sad as I really love the guy.
someone knowledgeable (close to me, they present on Covid regularly) confirmed that it’s here with us forever so to get busy or get busy dying. What to do, what to do :-/
N.B. Don’t want to hear from any conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxxers, negative types, etc.
thank you
I believe I have posted about the same situation awhile back so thank you for your patience.

Sorry prolly should have posted this in Covid section

 

[Cuchculan]

Could he take an Antigen test? They are like your home pregnancy tests. Nothing to say they are perfect. Better than not testing at all. I have no idea how available they are were he lives. Lot more places are using them. To test people there and then.

The risk will always be out there. Various opinions will always be out there too. Your boyfriend might have his views. You might have your own views. That will always be a tricky one. When it comes to meeting up. As you will want to know what he was doing since you last saw each other. You will be looking for the danger in things he is doing. More to protect yourself. I agree it is better safe that sorry.

Have said before the virus will burn itself out in time. I do agree we all might catch a little something. Then it will have nowhere else to spread to.

 

[LotusTree]

Only problem is that I know a friend who works on contact tracing for the government and she talked to one guy who’s already had it three times!!
I’m not sure this thing is ever going away. And then there is the question of the very real possibility of another and stronger virus appearing after this one. Sorry about my doomsday type thinking but as well as having extreme HA I have very bad depression as well (thus negative thinking).

 

[Cuchculan]

Are you not answering your own question by what you are saying? Onviously you have some idea what you think you should do. With all that fear you seem to have. It doesn't see like that is ever going to go away, no matter what anybody says. So then you have a choice of ending the relationship based around your own fears, or accepting some form of testing for your boyfriend. There is no third option. Unless you both lock yourselves away in a room until this is all over with. Which we both know is not plausable.

 

[MATD]

According to the CDC, the PCR test used to diagnose Covid, is faulty. Too many false positives. Supposed to be a new test coming out in December that will separate Covid from flu.

 

[Mrcasual]

To give you a generic answer you’re probably OK. There’s so many variables. There’s a lot of fear mongering I know for a fact that less people have had Covid than they say. You also have to know about what is called a viral load if you pass somebody that has Covid 99% you’re not gonna catch it if you’re in a car with them talking and laughing with the windows rolled up there’s a better chance but you’re still not guaranteed to get it. Since you are vaccinated most likely if you even do catch it you might not even know it or have mild cold like symptoms. The new variants are nothing new it’s the same thing you’re more protected than people that are not vaccinated and that’s a fact .

 

[Sweet T]

To give you a generic answer you’re probably OK. There’s so many variables. There’s a lot of fear mongering I know for a fact that less people have had Covid than they say. You also have to know about what is called a viral load if you pass somebody that has Covid 99% you’re not gonna catch it if you’re in a car with them talking and laughing with the windows rolled up there’s a better chance but you’re still not guaranteed to get it. Since you are vaccinated most likely if you even do catch it you might not even know it or have mild cold like symptoms. The new variants are nothing new it’s the same thing you’re more protected than people that are not vaccinated and that’s a fact .

How do you know for a fact that fewer people have had Covid than they say?

 

[Cuchculan]

No dount he read it on some site.

 

[Mrcasual]

Because you get false positives more then you get false negatives for one, for two hospitals get money the more cases there are, also when testing people think they got Covid again when it’s Just that they don’t understand they got tested for the antibodies. I mean I can go on and on but this is about anxiety not politics know what I mean .

No dount he read it on some site.

It’s people like you that show your ignorance.

 

[Sweet T]

I’m assuming you are in the healthcare field and know these things to be true?

 

[Mrcasual]

Again this isn’t going to be a debate. You have your opinions and I have mine and I really don’t see the point in going back-and-forth over this.

 

[Sweet T]

Again this isn’t going to be a debate. You have your opinions and I have mine and I really don’t see the point in going back-and-forth over this.

You said it was “fact” that there were fewer people that had Covid than what they said. So now you are saying opinion so I’m just confused is all. Thx for your responses.

 

[Mrcasual]

I don’t understand what’s so confusing? You do know that opinions are based on facts right? I made my opinion based on the facts. I can lay all of them out for you but no matter you might not believe them. You can always find “facts” that fit peoples narrative. Hence no need for this conversation to keep going.

 

[Iugrad91]

Opinion: An opinion is a judgement, viewpoint, or statement that is not conclusive, rather than facts, which are true statements.

One of your “facts” is incorrect. PCR and antigen tests almost never give false positives, but they can give false negatives. Rapid tests can often give false positives rather than false negatives. When people get tested and it is reported to the state health authorities, they are almost always getting a PCR test.

 

[Gooze17]

No one can prove anything he’s saying. The only evidence that even remotely supports it is the man who invented the pcr test insisting it cannot detect Covid

 

[Iugrad91]

That man invented PCR testing in the 90’s and he died before Covid was identified as a virus.

FactCheck: Did the creator of PCR tests say they don't work for Covid-19?

Posts on social media have wrongly claimed that PCR testing is inaccurate and produces a high rate of false positive results.

www.thejournal.ie

 

[Gooze17]

That man invented PCR testing in the 90’s and he died before Covid was identified as a virus.

FactCheck: Did the creator of PCR tests say they don't work for Covid-19?

Posts on social media have wrongly claimed that PCR testing is inaccurate and produces a high rate of false positive results.

www.thejournal.ie

You’re right I apologize, he stated it wasn’t beneficial for testing for viral infections

 

[Mrcasual]

Opinion: An opinion is a judgement, viewpoint, or statement that is not conclusive, rather than facts, which are true statements.

One of your “facts” is incorrect. PCR and antigen tests almost never give false positives, but they can give false negatives. Rapid tests can often give false positives rather than false negatives. When people get tested and it is reported to the state health authorities, they are almost always getting a PCR test.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is alerting clinical laboratory staff and health care providers that false positive results can occur with antigen tests, including when users do not follow the instructions for use of antigen tests for the rapid detection of SARS-CoV-2.”
How am I wrong? This is literally from the FDA. This is only one example.
One more thing is I stated facts that support my opinion so hence why I have a opinion. It’s not that hard to understand but I guess some people need more I site.

No one can prove anything he’s saying. The only evidence that even remotely supports it is the man who invented the pcr test insisting it cannot detect Covid

How can no one prove it! It’s been proven time and time again. You just don’t want to believe the facts and I get it. You are who you are.

 

[MATD]

Opinion: An opinion is a judgement, viewpoint, or statement that is not conclusive, rather than facts, which are true statements.

One of your “facts” is incorrect. PCR and antigen tests almost never give false positives, but they can give false negatives. Rapid tests can often give false positives rather than false negatives. When people get tested and it is reported to the state health authorities, they are almost always getting a PCR test.

You should check out the fact that the CFC themselves admitted the PCR test was giving too many false positives. It was in the news and on their website.

 

[Mrcasual]

You should check out the fact that the CFC themselves admitted the PCR test was giving too many false positives. It was in the news and on their website.

Makes sense. Thanks you.