My Story, Any Fix for Anxiety?

[Tim999]

I had my first racing heart at mid 2021 at the age of 41, ended up in the ER with a heart racing and blood pressure shot up. They xrayed my heart to make sure I didn't damage it. It was like 130 beats and slowly came down to 100 beats in like 4 hours. I did a heap of tests's and just said it was anxiety. I was on hospital for like 3 day's, because they tried to get my heart down to 50 beats for an ECHO test, but the best was 60.

This all started when I took B12 tablets, after 24 hours I felt heart fluttering, I though I was going to have heart attack, so I went to doctor, he checked and sent me home, 24 later, I felt my heart beating faster, went to hospital, they advised me to go home, then next day, I had lay in bed all day, because my heart was like beating at like 90 to 95 beats laying down flat in bed. I got up checked my heart rate it was 130 beats, I panicked and called an ambulance, then I felted my blood pressure surge, Ambulance came, and was in hospital for three days.

I had like another racing heart like 2 week later! But it came out of know where, in the morning after walking to the kitchen. Went to ER but it came down back to normal quickly and they sent me home. I also had two more racing hearts like 3 months apart after. They took like 4 to 6 hours to return to normal. They jumped to 130, and slowly with time returned to normal.

I then decided to test if the it was the B12 tablets 1000mcg Cyanocobalamin, 3 weeks after the going to ER. So I took it in morning, then bang like an hour later I was laying in bed, I started to feel anxious, I decided to lay in bed like the other night, but this time I decided to fight it, as I didn't want to go to the hospital again. That night was the worst night ever, every time I would try to go to the sleep, my heart would start racing, I would have to do deep breathing in out to slow it down. I literally couldn't sleep, because when I would nod off, it's like my nervous system would switch to one that was just overactive. My stomach felt it died that night and it was acidic for like 3 months. I also had heavy surges of heart pumps, where I felt the blood surge my veins at back of my head. I had headaches, high blood pressure, up and down for like 12 months after all this started. It slowly improved. The first three months, I would go for walks and I would have headaches, I felt like my nervous system was screwed for life. I would wake up in middle of night, heart was beating fast.

I was given Beta blockers( 3 weeks after ER), and was put on Anxiety Meds Sertraline like 9 months later. I took them like for 6 months then got off them. Still on Betablockers. I think Sertraline helped a little, but now I'm off them, I still feel good without them.

I researched cure for it.

-I went for walks everyday, got sunlight, since sunlight creates Serotonin.
-I decided to get B12 from food for the first 6 months, then slowly experimented with low does of B12 tablets I didn't have issues. I tried B12 methylcobalamin 1000mcg, and I didn't have any bad effects. Took them for like 2 months. My B12 was low at 100, when I had my anxiety attack.
- I suspect 1000mcg of Cyanocobalamin, could of had a hyper reaction to the gut? Causing an overactive sympathetic nervous system?

I'm still not 100%, I feel like my heart is a little too fast some days, like 95beats in the morning. I don't feel anxious. Blood pressure goes up sometimes.

Now I decided to remove WHEAT from my diet, get back to a health weight like a healthy BMI...75KG, currently 90KG to 95KG the last year.

I'm also going remove moldy room plasterboard soon. As I also suspect this anxiety issue, might have been caused by MOLD in the home.

So my idea of trying to cure anxiety or lessen it
-Daily exercise and sun
-Supplementation fish oil, get B12 levels up to 500p/mol ( was really low 100, they say below 500 causes issues)
-Remove mold, get better air environment
-Remove WHEAT, Mercury foods. (DETOX for 6 months) Might be Gluten destroying the gut, Pesticides in the WHEAT, Mercury in Tuna.
-Eat Organic
-Watch movies, stops the mind from thinking,

I also find laying in bed, lowers my blood pressure, heart rate, with slight incline to watch TV and play with the computer. Sitting on the seat, raises the heart rate a little and blood pressure.

So I'm basically trying to flip every rock, to fix this. I've always been a little nervous and worried a lot, intense, sometimes obsessed with certain subjects but never had an anxiety attack, blood pressure issues until I was like 42!. Crazy.

Has anyone, flipped every rock to fix anxiety? I feel that anxiety can be a mental issue, but I also feel like it's an imbalance of the body also. I'm just trying to correct the imbalance. I don't feel my issue is purely mental. I'm trying solve this problem like computer technician. Using the old trial and error method.

 

[NervousNikki]

I had my first racing heart at mid 2021 at the age of 41, ended up in the ER with a heart racing and blood pressure shot up. They xrayed my heart to make sure I didn't damage it. It was like 130 beats and slowly came down to 100 beats in like 4 hours. I did a heap of tests's and just said it was anxiety. I was on hospital for like 3 day's, because they tried to get my heart down to 50 beats for an ECHO test, but the best was 60.

This all started when I took B12 tablets, after 24 hours I felt heart fluttering, I though I was going to have heart attack, so I went to doctor, he checked and sent me home, 24 later, I felt my heart beating faster, went to hospital, they advised me to go home, then next day, I had lay in bed all day, because my heart was like beating at like 90 to 95 beats laying down flat in bed. I got up checked my heart rate it was 130 beats, I panicked and called an ambulance, then I felted my blood pressure surge, Ambulance came, and was in hospital for three days.

I had like another racing heart like 2 week later! But it came out of know where, in the morning after walking to the kitchen. Went to ER but it came down back to normal quickly and they sent me home. I also had two more racing hearts like 3 months apart after. They took like 4 to 6 hours to return to normal. They jumped to 130, and slowly with time returned to normal.

I then decided to test if the it was the B12 tablets 1000mcg Cyanocobalamin, 3 weeks after the going to ER. So I took it in morning, then bang like an hour later I was laying in bed, I started to feel anxious, I decided to lay in bed like the other night, but this time I decided to fight it, as I didn't want to go to the hospital again. That night was the worst night ever, every time I would try to go to the sleep, my heart would start racing, I would have to do deep breathing in out to slow it down. I literally couldn't sleep, because when I would nod off, it's like my nervous system would switch to one that was just overactive. My stomach felt it died that night and it was acidic for like 3 months. I also had heavy surges of heart pumps, where I felt the blood surge my veins at back of my head. I had headaches, high blood pressure, up and down for like 12 months after all this started. It slowly improved. The first three months, I would go for walks and I would have headaches, I felt like my nervous system was screwed for life. I would wake up in middle of night, heart was beating fast.

I was given Beta blockers( 3 weeks after ER), and was put on Anxiety Meds Sertraline like 9 months later. I took them like for 6 months then got off them. Still on Betablockers. I think Sertraline helped a little, but now I'm off them, I still feel good without them.

I researched cure for it.

-I went for walks everyday, got sunlight, since sunlight creates Serotonin.
-I decided to get B12 from food for the first 6 months, then slowly experimented with low does of B12 tablets I didn't have issues. I tried B12 methylcobalamin 1000mcg, and I didn't have any bad effects. Took them for like 2 months. My B12 was low at 100, when I had my anxiety attack.
- I suspect 1000mcg of Cyanocobalamin, could of had a hyper reaction to the gut? Causing an overactive sympathetic nervous system?

I'm still not 100%, I feel like my heart is a little too fast some days, like 95beats in the morning. I don't feel anxious. Blood pressure goes up sometimes.

Now I decided to remove WHEAT from my diet, get back to a health weight like a healthy BMI...75KG, currently 90KG to 95KG the last year.

I'm also going remove moldy room plasterboard soon. As I also suspect this anxiety issue, might have been caused by MOLD in the home.

So my idea of trying to cure anxiety or lessen it
-Daily exercise and sun
-Supplementation fish oil, get B12 levels up to 500p/mol ( was really low 100, they say below 500 causes issues)
-Remove mold, get better air environment
-Remove WHEAT, Mercury foods. (DETOX for 6 months) Might be Gluten destroying the gut, Pesticides in the WHEAT, Mercury in Tuna.
-Eat Organic
-Watch movies, stops the mind from thinking,

I also find laying in bed, lowers my blood pressure, heart rate, with slight incline to watch TV and play with the computer. Sitting on the seat, raises the heart rate a little and blood pressure.

So I'm basically trying to flip every rock, to fix this. I've always been a little nervous and worried a lot, intense, sometimes obsessed with certain subjects but never had an anxiety attack, blood pressure issues until I was like 42!. Crazy.

Has anyone, flipped every rock to fix anxiety? I feel that anxiety can be a mental issue, but I also feel like it's an imbalance of the body also. I'm just trying to correct the imbalance. I don't feel my issue is purely mental. I'm trying solve this problem like computer technician. Using the old trial and error method.

Wow... just came in here to say that I'm sorry that you're going through all of this.

Did they ever find what was wrong? Do you think it's simply anxiety and over thinking? Or do you think it's smthg more than that?

 

[Tim999]

It came out of no where, I'm thinking it might be caused by the mold in my house or maybe low B12. I never felt it was in my head. To me it seems like my nervous system became hyper sensitivitie, with a mind of it's own. The Medical system, just classed it as anxiety, so the doctors, SSRI givers don't question it. I took SSRI's I don't know if it helped. I'm off them now. But I've always been a worrier, but never had this is issue in my life. When it happened, I was not under stress.

It came out of no where, I'm thinking it might be caused by the mold in my house or maybe low B12. I never felt it was in my head. To me it seems like my nervous system became hyper sensitivitie, with a mind of it's own. The Medical system, just classed it as anxiety, so the doctors, SSRI givers don't question it. I took SSRI's I don't know if it helped. I'm off them now. But I've always been a worrier, but never had this is issue in my life. When it happened, I was not under stress.

Wow... just came in here to say that I'm sorry that you're going through all of this.

Did they ever find what was wrong? Do you think it's simply anxiety and over thinking? Or do you think it's smthg more than that?

It came out of no where, I'm thinking it might be caused by the mold in my house or maybe low B12. I never felt it was in my head. To me it seems like my nervous system became hyper sensitive, with a mind of it's own. The Medical system, just classed it as anxiety, so the doctors, SSRI givers don't question it. I took SSRI's I don't know if it helped. I'm off them now. But I've always been a worrier, but never had this is issue in my life. When it happened, I was not under stress.

I'm going to focus on weight loss, fresh air, exercise, mold removal, get B12 to good level. I join this site for possible cure or information, but it seems like anxiety is generalized, that it hard to find someone with the same issue.

 

[Jonathan123]

It came out of no where, I'm thinking it might be caused by the mold in my house or maybe low B12. I never felt it was in my head. To me it seems like my nervous system became hyper sensitivitie, with a mind of it's own. The Medical system, just classed it as anxiety, so the doctors, SSRI givers don't question it. I took SSRI's I don't know if it helped. I'm off them now. But I've always been a worrier, but never had this is issue in my life. When it happened, I was not under stress.

'It came out of the blue'. The number of times I have heard that. You say anxiety may be a mental disorder. It's not maybe it is, and it's in the mind where it needs to be addressed. You can medicate, do exercises, watch what you eat and go in for distractions., but all that does is give temporary relief. Everyone is different, it's why you may not find anyone who is exactly the same as you. If I may say so you are making the mistake of taking in too much information. We are not doctors, and most of the information we get means little and can be confusing. It is not caused by the mould in your home. It's your reaction to the mould that is the problem. You may have been Googling, big mistake in HA. You may have come on here seeking reassurance. Well that we can give you. It is a fact that no matter how long or to what intensity your anxiety is it can be resolved with the right treatment and the right attitude. Have you had any counselling? Get the books from Amazon by Dr. Claire Weekes. She advocates acceptance and not adding fear to fear. There is no cure for anxiety by medication. All that does is give us temporary relief from the symptoms, but it does give us the chance to look at our situation logically. When we first encounter anxiety we can become like a mouse in a maze, dashing about looking for a way out. All that does is use up the little energy we already have. Calm acceptance still remains the answer. You may have domestic problems that need to be resolved, many sufferers have. You can accept at the same time as you look for possible causes.

 

[gadamsgrega2]

Well first of all the Vitamin B12 is what will key you up... Lucky for you, it's water soluble and not fat soluble which means you pee it out over the course of a day or so... Ever see the "Energy now" mini shot drinks they have at grocery stores? You should see the % of B12 that are in them.... if you aren't prepared... they can really juice you up... I'm curious what the mg's of the tablets are you were taking for them... But keep in mind... you wouldn't be getting your B12 to a good level in your body... each day would start a new slate... Look up Water Soluble or Fat Soluble vitamins...

And if you are age 41.... M or F?

 

[NervousNikki]

It came out of no where, I'm thinking it might be caused by the mold in my house or maybe low B12. I never felt it was in my head. To me it seems like my nervous system became hyper sensitivitie, with a mind of it's own. The Medical system, just classed it as anxiety, so the doctors, SSRI givers don't question it. I took SSRI's I don't know if it helped. I'm off them now. But I've always been a worrier, but never had this is issue in my life. When it happened, I was not under stress.



It came out of no where, I'm thinking it might be caused by the mold in my house or maybe low B12. I never felt it was in my head. To me it seems like my nervous system became hyper sensitive, with a mind of it's own. The Medical system, just classed it as anxiety, so the doctors, SSRI givers don't question it. I took SSRI's I don't know if it helped. I'm off them now. But I've always been a worrier, but never had this is issue in my life. When it happened, I was not under stress.

I'm going to focus on weight loss, fresh air, exercise, mold removal, get B12 to good level. I join this site for possible cure or information, but it seems like anxiety is generalized, that it hard to find someone with the same issue.

Hmm.....

You know, I kind of agree with you. I feel like anxiety is a mental health issue, but I feel like sometimes anxiety can also be a physical issue as well. I don't think scientists and doctors have fully come to figure out why anxiety takes place.

What came first? Is it the chicken or the egg? Are people experiencing anxiety because there is actually smthg wrong in the body (hormones, adrenalin overproduction, etc) and the feelings of anxiety cause negative thoughts and in turn MORE feelings of anxiety?

Or, are the anxiety symptoms strictly caused by the thoughts in the mind?

I personally think that it could be both, and that the cause of anxiety in one person might not be the same for another person. But maybe that's just me.

Sometimes I've felt anxiety just from out of the blue, not even thinking anything negative.

 

[Tim999]

Well first of all the Vitamin B12 is what will key you up... Lucky for you, it's water soluble and not fat soluble which means you pee it out over the course of a day or so... Ever see the "Energy now" mini shot drinks they have at grocery stores? You should see the % of B12 that are in them.... if you aren't prepared... they can really juice you up... I'm curious what the mg's of the tablets are you were taking for them... But keep in mind... you wouldn't be getting your B12 to a good level in your body... each day would start a new slate... Look up Water Soluble or Fat Soluble vitamins...

And if you are age 41.... M or F?

I'm Male, I also took MethCo, 1000mg for 60 days, and also take 1000MG once a week now. It should be in the ok levels now. I didn't have side effects.

Hmm.....

You know, I kind of agree with you. I feel like anxiety is a mental health issue, but I feel like sometimes anxiety can also be a physical issue as well. I don't think scientists and doctors have fully come to figure out why anxiety takes place.

What came first? Is it the chicken or the egg? Are people experiencing anxiety because there is actually smthg wrong in the body (hormones, adrenalin overproduction, etc) and the feelings of anxiety cause negative thoughts and in turn MORE feelings of anxiety?

Or, are the anxiety symptoms strictly caused by the thoughts in the mind?

I personally think that it could be both, and that the cause of anxiety in one person might not be the same for another person. But maybe that's just me.

Sometimes I've felt anxiety just from out of the blue, not even thinking anything negative.

I've felt normal anxiety, where I didn't want to check my BP, I got nervous and my heart rate went up to 110. Then once I seen my BP was low heart rate dropped to 80. But that was quick. Today this morning I went cut the grass took my Betablocker just before I started and my heart rate was high like 100, 110. After I finished the front 50 minutes later, I checked it was 115. Then I just laided in BED until it dropped to 80 or 90 for 10 minutes, then I went to do the back part of the house, I came back checked it was 90. Without Betablockers, I don't think I can function.
I'm giving lots of information, because I'm trying to solve a problem, maybe someone might have a fix for it. But it seems like I won't find a fix, 2 year's in, and I'm still not back to normal. Anxiety is too generalized and it seems to me doctors are probably mixing non anxiety issue with anxiety issues. I think it's more of a Nervous system issue rather then a mind issue. The only fix's is SSRI's (depends on the person), BetaBlockers, (exercise, diet, and relaxation if it's a MIND issue(. I'm trying to lose weight, maybe that might help, who knows. But I don't see anyone can help me, I'm convinced phyologists will be a totally waste of time and money, since I think it's more of a nervous system issue.

 

[Sam1987]

I'm Male, I also took MethCo, 1000mg for 60 days, and also take 1000MG once a week now. It should be in the ok levels now. I didn't have side effects.


I've felt normal anxiety, where I didn't want to check my BP, I got nervous and my heart rate went up to 110. Then once I seen my BP was low heart rate dropped to 80. But that was quick. Today this morning I went cut the grass took my Betablocker just before I started and my heart rate was high like 100, 110. After I finished the front 50 minutes later, I checked it was 115. Then I just laided in BED until it dropped to 80 or 90 for 10 minutes, then I went to do the back part of the house, I came back checked it was 90. Without Betablockers, I don't think I can function.


I'm giving lots of information, because I'm trying to solve a problem, maybe someone might have a fix for it. But it seems like I won't find a fix, 2 year's in, and I'm still not back to normal. Anxiety is too generalized and it seems to me doctors are probably mixing non anxiety issue with anxiety issues. I think it's more of a Nervous system issue rather then a mind issue. The only fix's is SSRI's (depends on the person), BetaBlockers, (exercise, diet, and relaxation if it's a MIND issue(. I'm trying to lose weight, maybe that might help, who knows. But I don't see anyone can help me, I'm convinced phyologists will be a totally waste of time and money, since I think it's more of a nervous system issue.

I think I have the exact opposite anxious thoughts about heart rate. I’m always worried that when I am laying down resting, my heart rate will fall too low like in the lower 50s and this to me gets me anxious. Also with beta blockers I’d be worried if I started doing something strenuous or exercise, that I’d feel out of breath while my heart rate is low which just seems weird.

 

[Tim999]

I think I have the exact opposite anxious thoughts about heart rate. I’m always worried that when I am laying down resting, my heart rate will fall too low like in the lower 50s and this to me gets me anxious. Also with beta blockers I’d be worried if I started doing something strenuous or exercise, that I’d feel out of breath while my heart rate is low which just seems weird.

Well, my nervous system seems overactive. Laying down is the best way to calm it down. I have no idea, how i'm going to work i then future, I can't function without beta-blockers. I would prefer to have panic attacks here and there, then have normal nervous system, then constant overactive nervous with NO REASON.

 

[Sam1987]

Well, my nervous system seems overactive. Laying down is the best way to calm it down. I have no idea, how i'm going to work i then future, I can't function without beta-blockers. I would prefer to have panic attacks here and there, then have normal nervous system, then constant overactive nervous with NO REASON.

Can you not just stay on beta blockers? Are there any bad side effects?

 

[Tim999]

No side effects with BetaBlockers. SSRI's, have sexual disfunction, I think drops testosterone.

 

[suzzeeb]

Hmm.....

You know, I kind of agree with you. I feel like anxiety is a mental health issue, but I feel like sometimes anxiety can also be a physical issue as well. I don't think scientists and doctors have fully come to figure out why anxiety takes place.

What came first? Is it the chicken or the egg? Are people experiencing anxiety because there is actually smthg wrong in the body (hormones, adrenalin overproduction, etc) and the feelings of anxiety cause negative thoughts and in turn MORE feelings of anxiety?

Or, are the anxiety symptoms strictly caused by the thoughts in the mind?

I personally think that it could be both, and that the cause of anxiety in one person might not be the same for another person. But maybe that's just me.

Sometimes I've felt anxiety just from out of the blue, not even thinking anything negative.

I feel the same way. I think there are things about anxiety disorders they have yet to figure out. I do feel like we have an abnormally high amount of adrenaline or cortisol or who knows what and that brings on fear and symptoms. I don't necessarily buy into the fact that it's all mental.

 

[Tim999]

I feel the same way. I think there are things about anxiety disorders they have yet to figure out. I do feel like we have an abnormally high amount of adrenaline or cortisol or who knows what and that brings on fear and symptoms. I don't necessarily buy into the fact that it's all mental.

Mine was bad about 1 year ago. I used to wake up with heart rate of 100 in the morning and at 9pm at night I used to get out of bed, heart used to jump to 100, I had lay down back on the bed. I could feel the adrenaline and cortisol at like 6am in morning while I woke up. The worse is when I used to try to go to sleep, the heart would start racing. It's like sleep mode, makes the nervous system more unstable. There have been case's where I've felt my mind was to blame, eg getting blood pressure taken, I would get anxious, then taking it, realizing it not that high and my heart rate will then drop back down to normal.

But I will admit, I think relaxing, laying on the bed, watching a movie, doc, playing game can keep you mind distracted. It can help. Supplements.
I've found that fasting 2 - 3 meals a day, not eating constantly keeps the nervous system more relaxed.

But my issue, when walking or exercising, I feel like it takes a while for heart rate to drop back down to normal. EG some days, I will come home from walk my heart rate will be 98, some days its 115. This is with Beta-Blockers.

 

[MATD]

The fix for anxiety is acceptance, pure and simple. Research Dr Claire Weekes who developed a method of acceptance for anxiety recovery. It’s not a quick fix but rather teaches acceptance. facing the anxiety and not fighting it. Sounds counter to us, but our built in mechanism for protection, the fight or flight response, is what is out of wack. The method helps us to get it back in it’s proper order. Simple, yes, but it takes work and time on our part. And if one perseveres with practicing the method, it will stay with us for a lifetime.

 

[Tim999]

The fix for anxiety is acceptance, pure and simple. Research Dr Claire Weekes who developed a method of acceptance for anxiety recovery. It’s not a quick fix but rather teaches acceptance. facing the anxiety and not fighting it. Sounds counter to us, but our built in mechanism for protection, the fight or flight response, is what is out of wack. The method helps us to get it back in it’s proper order. Simple, yes, but it takes work and time on our part. And if one perseveres with practicing the method, it will stay with us for a lifetime.

I understand, also I can say, letting go of FEAR, fear of death also might help. But still, Anxiety is different for everyone. Some people's anxiety is just on and off. Other's can be constant. Other might seem clearly mental, other's is weird to understand. Anxiety is too generalized. It should be more sloted into types of anxiety and different methods of treatment. When I read all there tips, it just goes over my head. Like EG I don't have trigger for anxiety, I just get symptoms. Where is the fine line of Anxiety and Nervous System Disfunction? Do doctors confuse these? or just point everything to anxiety. Pointing everything to anxiety doesn't really solve the issue. Diagnosis of Anxiety is not a treatment or a cure. I was only offered Pills and advised to see Phyc. These two were not cures.

 

[MATD]

The fear of death is part of the anxiety. The anxiety comes from the unknown, the lack of confidence in one’s self, the lack of knowledge/information. We all, every single person on the face of the earth, must face the looming certainty of their own demise. That’s probably the biggest issue with anxiety sufferers. But every brain functions predominantly the same way. Therefore there is one “cure.” To straighten out the disordered thinking that anxiety clauses. To accept the anxiety and face it, allow it to be without fighting it, lets the anxiety simply fade away. Not easy to do but entirely possible. It’s all in the mind, how bad one wants to recover and do what is necessary to accomplish it. Most folks look for an easy fix, but there isn’t one. It’s up to you. As someone who has had anxiety for decades, I’ve been where everybody else has been and there is no quick fix, tips or tricks to overcome it without doing some hard work and facing the fear with acceptance.

 

[Tim999]

I went for walk without my Betablocker, heart rate went 150 walking up the hill. As I was coming home it reached 130 on flat surface 30 minute walk. State down, it was like 109 then took about 5 minutes to drop 90's. I laided down on the bed it dropped to 87. Now after about 30 minutes 72 laying flat. I've been BetaBlockers for 2 years. I used to take 50MG in morning and 25MG at night, Last 8 months only 25MG in morning, today tried nothing.

Feels like the Sympathetic nervous is still sensitive. I guess being on them so long, has maybe made the Parasympathetic less active.

The fear of death is part of the anxiety. The anxiety comes from the unknown, the lack of confidence in one’s self, the lack of knowledge/information. We all, every single person on the face of the earth, must face the looming certainty of their own demise. That’s probably the biggest issue with anxiety sufferers. But every brain functions predominantly the same way. Therefore there is one “cure.” To straighten out the disordered thinking that anxiety clauses. To accept the anxiety and face it, allow it to be without fighting it, lets the anxiety simply fade away. Not easy to do but entirely possible. It’s all in the mind, how bad one wants to recover and do what is necessary to accomplish it. Most folks look for an easy fix, but there isn’t one. It’s up to you. As someone who has had anxiety for decades, I’ve been where everybody else has been and there is no quick fix, tips or tricks to overcome it without doing some hard work and facing the fear with acceptance.

I understand, after like a year, I kinda didn't care as much. But the first 6 months it was bad,I felt I was doomed, so I think that made it worse.
How do you experience it? racing heart? heart always high? over sensitive nervous system?

 

[MATD]

I went for walk without my Betablocker, heart rate went 150 walking up the hill. As I was coming home it reached 130 on flat surface 30 minute walk. State down, it was like 109 then took about 5 minutes to drop 90's. I laided down on the bed it dropped to 87. Now after about 30 minutes 72 laying flat. I've been BetaBlockers for 2 years. I used to take 50MG in morning and 25MG at night, Last 8 months only 25MG in morning, today tried nothing.

Feels like the Sympathetic nervous is still sensitive. I guess being on them so long, has maybe made the Parasympathetic less active.


I understand, after like a year, I kinda didn't care as much. But the first 6 months it was bad,I felt I was doomed, so I think that made it worse.
How do you experience it? racing heart? heart always high? over sensitive nervous system?

The whole spectrum of symptoms, health anxiety and all the usually fears that accompany it, OCD, social anxiety. Racing/intrusive thoughts, extreme tightness/tension in the muscles which then cause other symptoms, heart palps, you name it. The parasympathetic nervous system is directly affected by anxiety and causes a myriad of symptoms. Your heart beat issue, which you appear to be obsessed with, could be affected by the PNS. This system controls involuntary nerves/ muscles, etc. It affected my ability to take deep breaths, my chest muscles were so tight I could only breathe shallow. After several years of keeping on a consistent course of meditation, these muscles relaxed enough so I could breathe deeper. After I started practicing acceptance, my breathing returned to normal, as well as the lessening of all the other symptoms. My ability to think again and to reason has been slowly returning. The acceptance practice is what I credit for putting me on the road to recovery. It’s a journey, not a quick fix. I had to be patient and stay focused on the practice, sometimes, especially when I first started, it was difficult to keep going. The anxious and depressive thoughts were determined to keep me down, but here I am, still going and so much improved. Well worth all the effort so far and even more to look forward to.

 

[Tim999]

The whole spectrum of symptoms, health anxiety and all the usually fears that accompany it, OCD, social anxiety. Racing/intrusive thoughts, extreme tightness/tension in the muscles which then cause other symptoms, heart palps, you name it. The parasympathetic nervous system is directly affected by anxiety and causes a myriad of symptoms. Your heart beat issue, which you appear to be obsessed with, could be affected by the PNS. This system controls involuntary nerves/ muscles, etc. It affected my ability to take deep breaths, my chest muscles were so tight I could only breathe shallow. After several years of keeping on a consistent course of meditation, these muscles relaxed enough so I could breathe deeper. After I started practicing acceptance, my breathing returned to normal, as well as the lessening of all the other symptoms. My ability to think again and to reason has been slowly returning. The acceptance practice is what I credit for putting me on the road to recovery. It’s a journey, not a quick fix. I had to be patient and stay focused on the practice, sometimes, especially when I first started, it was difficult to keep going. The anxious and depressive thoughts were determined to keep me down, but here I am, still going and so much improved. Well worth all the effort so far and even more to look forward to.

Thanks, Interesting what your going through. It almost feels like the brain is an state of constant panic. I'm not obsessed with it, I just know it's overactive, it irrates me, as I want to fix it. I was computer tech for year's, always had to fix problems. I guess the last two year's I have improved.
Pots, pals, headaches, vein twitching, waking up in the middle of the night with fast heart rate, jumps in blood pressure or occur very rarely or don't anymore. But still overactive, sympathetic, underactive para sympatheic issue, which prorably pushs the heart rate like 10 to 20 beats higher then usual.

Did you try herbal supplements? Did anything work for you?

 

[MATD]

Thanks, Interesting what your going through. It almost feels like the brain is an state of constant panic. I'm not obsessed with it, I just know it's overactive, it irrates me, as I want to fix it. I was computer tech for year's, always had to fix problems. I guess the last two year's I have improved.
Pots, pals, headaches, vein twitching, walking up in middle of the night with fast heart rate, jumps in blood pressure or occur very rarely or don't anymore. But still overactive, sympathetic, under active para sympatheic issue, which prorably pushs the heart rate like 10 to 20 beats higher then usual.

Did you try herbal supplements? Did anything work for you?

I have been on an antidepressant along with Buspar. They help some but they cannot change the way we think which is the heart of the problem. I recently stopped the Buspar with the oversight of my doc. Next is the antidepressant, tapering off under her oversight. I know a lot of folks think these herbal or natural remedies work, and maybe they do, but the effects are very short lived and cannot change the thought process either. If all the things I have tried, acceptance practice has done more and keeps doing more than anything I have tried. Acceptance practice is as natural as it gets, using our own brain power and nothing more. And it works if we stick with it.