Worry I can never travel again

[Phil10]

I am worried with these health passports. They may say if you don’t have the vaccine can’t travel.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1349824987402797057

A few questions will they allow maybe a covid negative. I don’t want the vaccine but fear the government will ban me from cinema concerts and football and travel. It’s so depressing life is pretty grim. I mean like if they vaccine those at risk why can’t I take my chances with COVID like flu? Why can’t like a TB vaccine can’t I decide what I inject? I fear those who don’t take the vaccine will be isolated in society and nobody will care as the pro vaxers will say it deserves you right. Given the mental health impact of lockdown will there not be more depression and suicides if people are banned from stuff if they don’t have a covid passport?

 

[Bobnnat]

Phil, I mean this with all due respect. Unless you are one of the very few who medically are recommended to not be vaccinated, rethink your choice. If it weren’t for herd immunity, measles and polio would be running rampant in society. I have no idea what various governments might do, especially in Europe, but there is no valid reason, in my mind at least, not to get it. Perhaps wait until the fall if that will help you believe it’s safe, after 80% + have taken it with no serious harm.

 

[Phil10]

Will I ever be able to travel again? I fear I will be banned from travel forever?

 

[Cuchculan]

I am sure you will be allowed again some day. Have to wait and see how this all plays out first. For now there is no end in sight. I would not worry about it for now. Not many people can travel right now. It will be like that for a good while.

 

[Phil10]

I am sure you will be allowed again some day. Have to wait and see how this all plays out first. For now there is no end in sight. I would not worry about it for now. Not many people can travel right now. It will be like that for a good while.

True I mean I have been asking these questions for months. And like what’s to stop someone going from Italy to Switzerland on foot or in a car? Are they just going to check airports? If they bring in covid pills do you swallow them in front of a doctor? What happens if some counties don’t vaccinate under 50’s every year? All complicated reasons. Right mow they can’t see past lockdowns and quarantining despite a year on. They are great at coming up with bright ideas like a vaccine passport but can’t justify if it means on the point border checks?

 

[Cuchculan]

Border checks are in place. Even here in Ireland. North to South. Is not allowed if non essential. You get fined if you try to do it. Same with airports. Fined if you try and get near one for non essential reasons. So as we stand it is only essential travel. With that you need a negative test result. That will stay in place for some time to come. Because the current vaccines don't cure Covid. They only lessen it should you get it. So with the vaccine you can still get Covid and pass it on. Until they get a solid vaccine, which take another year, nothing will really change as far as travel is concerned. So not something to worry about at this moment in time. They still have to get a vaccine that stops Covid dead in its tracks. Until that time things will be as they are.

 

[Phil10]

Border checks are in place. Even here in Ireland. North to South. Is not allowed if non essential. You get fined if you try to do it. Same with airports. Fined if you try and get near one for non essential reasons. So as we stand it is only essential travel. With that you need a negative test result. That will stay in place for some time to come. Because the current vaccines don't cure Covid. They only lessen it should you get it. So with the vaccine you can still get Covid and pass it on. Until they get a solid vaccine, which take another year, nothing will really change as far as travel is concerned. So not something to worry about at this moment in time. They still have to get a vaccine that stops Covid dead in its tracks. Until that time things will be as they are.

I agree but why all the stories of vaccine passports when nobody can explain human rights border controls discrimination. They pop up with the idea with no substance. Also what borders the EU is open you can drive without border checks I am sure I read someone who walked between countries.
Future Covid-19 vaccination programmes may only offer the jab to those at highest risk of severe disease, a former Government adviser has said.
A future programme could fall in line with the current flu jab scheme and only see those at highest risk offered a vaccine, Professor David Salisbury said.

Only vulnerable may get Covid vaccine in future, says expert

"We will have some political, moral, ethical considerations about what do we do with people who are not in the risk groups – they’re much less likely to die, but they may get long Covid"

www.walesonline.co.uk

How would that work then if not everybody gets vaccinated how could they demand it surely passports would only work for 2021 short term fix?

 

[Cuchculan]

like I said, for now, as in just for now, travel is all but banned. that will only change if there is any change to the overall situation concerning Covid. If you were running a country, would you want infected people coming into your country? The more people are allowed to travel, the greater the risk of spreading the virus even more. No idea what changes will come and when they will come. But it will have to involve a working vaccine. One that stops the virus. Or else it will just continue on and on.