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Rabies Phobia Ruins Lives (But Let Me Give You Hope...)

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Hello. I have neglected writing about this for far too long. It is time to shed some light so others struggling will have peace of mind knowing they are not alone, and there are people you can talk to.

My name is Jay. I am 19, an American male college student and general consensus claims I am a fun guy who really enjoys life who just happens to have Generalized Anxiety Disorder. I am involved in a lot, I volunteer, encourage talking about mental health, and I am very active creatively. I enjoyed good food and drink and spent my days happy and in love with my beautiful girlfriend and spending time with my family when I got the chance.

Except that USED to be me. Until I learned about rabies and its 99.9% mortality rate if untreated. (Only confirmed survivor by wild chance is Jeanna Giese.) To preface, there are 327,000,000 people that live in the U.S. On average, only around 1-3 people a year die in the States from this 100% preventable yet terminal zoonotic disease carried by bats, skunks, raccoons, and dogs. But my GAD didn't care, it turned to something new, HEALTH anxiety. I became obsessed to the point of borderline insanity. I found myself waking up at 3 AM with my phone flashlight shining on my body parts, looking for any stray marks and redness. I grew a fear of the dark where I would imagine bats flying out of the darkness and biting my thumb without me realizing. I have Googled THOUSANDS of times, to the point where I can quote to you, not only rabies statistics worldwide, but exactly how to prevent and identify rabies in every single organism on this planet.

I felt like I was going insane. It started to tear apart my relationships with people. I was having panic attacks every single time it got dark out. I have sent hundreds of texts and photos to my family, causing justifiable frustration in them that would grow with every single file. I would bother my girlfriend every single time I felt any bodily discomfort, and now we barely talk when we used to spend every waking moment together and happy. Every muscle twitch, tendon pain, swallowing of spit, bruise, dent, mark, and cut I analyzed, assessed, documented, sobbed over, and resigned my mind to the inevitability of my own death by this awful disease. My father is a physician, I have received the mark of good health from him no less than a thousand times, and my mind is still paralyzed by the thought of being unknowingly infected with little time left.

As time went on, eventually I got a cold, as humans do. Now a cold brings two things: muscle aches, the shakes, and throat closing/hypersalivation, the three marked symptoms presented in the rabid infection. I became hysterical. Now I had assumed I had entered prodrome and the one thing WebMD and every other godawful health page on the internet will tell you is once rabies starts symptoms, it is too late. I was/am frenzied, immediately throwing my mental health and life into disarray and sobbing every night until I was out of anything to cry while I thought I was on the descent to the worst possibility.

By now the cold is almost over, and I am still alive, still writing this forum post, and plan on being alive for a very long time after this is posted. But I am here to tell anyone who is suffering from this same thought, anyone looking to shed light on “rabies anxiety”, and anyone feeling alone and isolated right now because of how this phobia affects lives, that YOU ARE NOT ALONE.

You are going to be OKAY. You are LOVED. You are VALUABLE. I believe in YOU, and the only advice I can give is to NOT believe that voice in yourself right now, and to believe me. That feeling you have in your head is your anxiety, not a Lyssavirus, like rabies. Anxiety DOES cause physical symptoms and they will feel scary, but you are going to be just fine. Keep reading that as much as you need to. You are going to be just fine. You are stronger than this and I know that we can all win against these untrue thoughts, however incessant and daunting they sound and feel to you. I still struggle with them, on the daily, but I have struggled far too long, and that is why I decided to write this and do something about it. If you want to talk about your fear, DM me, I am here for you. If you need to just vent, DM me, I am here for you. If you are feeling like you no longer see hope, DM me, I am here for you. Also if it has gotten to that point, please seek professional help. Even if you have to do it yourself and you are scared, I promise you, life is better with you in it and you need to share how you feel with someone. This anxiety is not worth losing yourself with it. Believe me, I struggled.

This is my story and this is how I struggled. I still struggle sometimes, but it does get easier, a little more so every day. I love you, don‘t give up hope. That cold is just a cold. That scratch is just a scratch. That bruise is just a bruise. It is going to be okay, people love you. Breathe deep, and believe in me, just like I believe in you.

We're going to be okay.​
 

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I have been dealing with different created scenarios the past few months regarding rabies. What bothers me the most is my dramatic 180 regarding animals. I used to go completely out of my way to pet different animals. I mean way out of my way....

Now every single animal potentially has rabies. I can't go to family functions because of the animals. Im not sure whether i need to force myself to go play with animals again or what. The 180 that has become is very extreme.
 

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I have been dealing with different created scenarios the past few months regarding rabies. What bothers me the most is my dramatic 180 regarding animals. I used to go completely out of my way to pet different animals. I mean way out of my way....

Now every single animal potentially has rabies. I can't go to family functions because of the animals. Im not sure whether i need to force myself to go play with animals again or what. The 180 that has become is very extreme.
E.B, I understand. I initially backed away from any and all animals. I am not sure whether or not this is common knowledge but canine rabies is basically eradicated in the U.S. Due to the success of domestic vaccination, all dogs, whether at a shelter or in a house are vaccinated. Once the State catches a stray, they will initially vaccinate for the public health. Cats have a special sense and awareness that keeps them from getting the virus due to sheer instinct, so no need for panic with cats too. Domestic animals, are usually pretty a-okay, in the states at least. Most wild animals have the sensory thing to stay away from the virus, the only one that still gets me freaked out sometimes are bats. Only around 1% of bats do carry rabies, yet I still some days cannot shake the feeling that they all do. Funniest part is my favorite superhero has always been Batman! And now I can't even look at the Bat symbol without flinching.
 

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I hear you. I go through phases where I do the whole was that a bat that just hit me, or making sure windows are closed or sometimes even checking areas to make sure bats aren't there.
 

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I hear you. I go through phases where I do the whole was that a bat that just hit me, or making sure windows are closed or sometimes even checking areas to make sure bats aren't there.
I have done the exact same thing. But I totally promise it’s gonna be okay. Bats have to land to bite and you would definitely notice one if it landed! It’s going to be okay!
 

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Im wondering if i need to force myself to go and be like i used to be regarding animals, going to pet/play with them, because in reality that's who i am or atleast who i have always been i should say.
 

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Hi there. I fear of rabies too. Let set the thinks like this. This all anxiety about sickness began when my dog die. I think he could die of rabies etc etc. That didnt happen and i calm down for about a year. But now the fear of rabies come back

My think now is that i dream a bat bite me, i woke up and i have an itch in my leg, i touch it scratch it, and then i think ""ooo this can be the bite of the bat" then i overthink it a lot, go to medics (who are not zoonotic specialist) and after all i go to some zoonotic center in my country (Argentina, Buenos Aires) where they normally administrate rabid vaccine to people.
They say i go a little late, so they cant confirm that the thing in my leg was or not was a bat (head of medical guard, (the boss)) say it wasnt a bat, they ask me if when i woke up i see the bat or heard anysound or movement and etc. Then i tell in which part of the city i live and the doctor who was seeing my case say well there are bats in this area to the other doctor.
And they desided to give me only 2 doses because they say the area was not (the neck neither the hands, so less risk park) and the scratch was a little small.



https://www.reddit.com/r/AskDocs/comments/f53q30
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskDoctorSmeeee/comments/f515x2

Then i found and old scar and i think it was made by the bat.....
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskDocs/comments/f6tv24

Now i have my two doses, one on day 19 and other on day 26 of February, i still think this 2 doses are not enought if the possible bat i never see can be the one cause the itch in my leg. So i can be 100% calm, i was a little less anxiety than before. but not 100% calm.

Now any symptoms of anything can be rabies symptoms.
If i have any contracture, any mucus in my throat. etc etc
 

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Hello. I have neglected writing about this for far too long. It is time to shed some light so others struggling will have peace of mind knowing they are not alone, and there are people you can talk to.

My name is Jay. I am 19, an American male college student and general consensus claims I am a fun guy who really enjoys life who just happens to have Generalized Anxiety Disorder. I am involved in a lot, I volunteer, encourage talking about mental health, and I am very active creatively. I enjoyed good food and drink and spent my days happy and in love with my beautiful girlfriend and spending time with my family when I got the chance.

Except that USED to be me. Until I learned about rabies and its 99.9% mortality rate if untreated. (Only confirmed survivor by wild chance is Jeanna Giese.) To preface, there are 327,000,000 people that live in the U.S. On average, only around 1-3 people a year die in the States from this 100% preventable yet terminal zoonotic disease carried by bats, skunks, raccoons, and dogs. But my GAD didn't care, it turned to something new, HEALTH anxiety. I became obsessed to the point of borderline insanity. I found myself waking up at 3 AM with my phone flashlight shining on my body parts, looking for any stray marks and redness. I grew a fear of the dark where I would imagine bats flying out of the darkness and biting my thumb without me realizing. I have Googled THOUSANDS of times, to the point where I can quote to you, not only rabies statistics worldwide, but exactly how to prevent and identify rabies in every single organism on this planet.

I felt like I was going insane. It started to tear apart my relationships with people. I was having panic attacks every single time it got dark out. I have sent hundreds of texts and photos to my family, causing justifiable frustration in them that would grow with every single file. I would bother my girlfriend every single time I felt any bodily discomfort, and now we barely talk when we used to spend every waking moment together and happy. Every muscle twitch, tendon pain, swallowing of spit, bruise, dent, mark, and cut I analyzed, assessed, documented, sobbed over, and resigned my mind to the inevitability of my own death by this awful disease. My father is a physician, I have received the mark of good health from him no less than a thousand times, and my mind is still paralyzed by the thought of being unknowingly infected with little time left.

As time went on, eventually I got a cold, as humans do. Now a cold brings two things: muscle aches, the shakes, and throat closing/hypersalivation, the three marked symptoms presented in the rabid infection. I became hysterical. Now I had assumed I had entered prodrome and the one thing WebMD and every other godawful health page on the internet will tell you is once rabies starts symptoms, it is too late. I was/am frenzied, immediately throwing my mental health and life into disarray and sobbing every night until I was out of anything to cry while I thought I was on the descent to the worst possibility.

By now the cold is almost over, and I am still alive, still writing this forum post, and plan on being alive for a very long time after this is posted. But I am here to tell anyone who is suffering from this same thought, anyone looking to shed light on “rabies anxiety”, and anyone feeling alone and isolated right now because of how this phobia affects lives, that YOU ARE NOT ALONE.

You are going to be OKAY. You are LOVED. You are VALUABLE. I believe in YOU, and the only advice I can give is to NOT believe that voice in yourself right now, and to believe me. That feeling you have in your head is your anxiety, not a Lyssavirus, like rabies. Anxiety DOES cause physical symptoms and they will feel scary, but you are going to be just fine. Keep reading that as much as you need to. You are going to be just fine. You are stronger than this and I know that we can all win against these untrue thoughts, however incessant and daunting they sound and feel to you. I still struggle with them, on the daily, but I have struggled far too long, and that is why I decided to write this and do something about it. If you want to talk about your fear, DM me, I am here for you. If you need to just vent, DM me, I am here for you. If you are feeling like you no longer see hope, DM me, I am here for you. Also if it has gotten to that point, please seek professional help. Even if you have to do it yourself and you are scared, I promise you, life is better with you in it and you need to share how you feel with someone. This anxiety is not worth losing yourself with it. Believe me, I struggled.

This is my story and this is how I struggled. I still struggle sometimes, but it does get easier, a little more so every day. I love you, don‘t give up hope. That cold is just a cold. That scratch is just a scratch. That bruise is just a bruise. It is going to be okay, people love you. Breathe deep, and believe in me, just like I believe in you.

We're going to be okay.​
Hey brother, I'm new here, Im suffering this kind of situation but yours is worst compared to me but man i have extreme phobia on rabies after i googled symptoms and research a lot about rabies. Last month I was scratched by my pet cat when i was teasing it and one of its nail pierced through and it bleed a bit so i washed it with detergent and poured an alcohol, the wound is at my wrist btw and I went to a local hospital and they said that i have to observe my pet cat for 3 to 2 weeks and until now the cat is healthy but my mind not satisfied by it so i went to animal bite center to pay for vaccination and it cost me a lot of money because the government hospital wont vaccinate me for free and after i finished my schedule for vaccine im a bit eased but i still had the stigma of having a rabies virus and my anxiety still attacks me, also i watched rabies patients in YouTube die and until now it still haunts me , I didn't have flu symptoms or any symptoms from rabies but my mind is toying with like someone's whispering like when i use my electric fan and the air is steady on me, my mind's saying (you have aerophobia) and take note it's one of symptoms right? but im not really scared of air breeze, what do you think bro? is this cause by anxiety? my physical health is 100% ok though and i don't have a flu it's just this aerophobia and hydrophobia keeps crossing my mind but i can drink water and not scared. what are your thoughts bro? im planning on consulting to psychiatrist, what do u think? sorry for my bad english
 

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Hi, i am still alive. So i believe i have not rabies... Also... i take the rabies vaccines (yep all the 4 is was not so logic answer but a answer to stop my anxiety). I also go to a psychologist and a psychiatrist, because in my case... i never see the bat i dream. So i believe now for sure, it was a dream.
What can i say is that the cat need to stay in close interaction with a rabied animal to catch rabies, also if the cat has the vaccines, is unlikely to adquire rabies even if the cat was in close interaction with a rabied animal
 

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Hi, i am still alive. So i believe i have not rabies... Also... i take the rabies vaccines (yep all the 4 is was not so logic answer but a answer to stop my anxiety). I also go to a psychologist and a psychiatrist, because in my case... i never see the bat i dream. So i believe now for sure, it was a dream.
What can i say is that the cat need to stay in close interaction with a rabied animal to catch rabies, also if the cat has the vaccines, is unlikely to adquire rabies even if the cat was in close interaction with a rabied animal
hi mate, what did the psychiatrist tell you? did it help you cope up?
 

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Yep it help, the psychiatrist tell me that it looks like a neurosis, related with a obsessive behavior. Now i am taking a pill (luvox) who help to it.
If you are sure, your cat is okay, he/she was vaccinated and has no chance to get rabies but you still think in it. it could be something similar
 

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Yep it help, the psychiatrist tell me that it looks like a neurosis, related with a obsessive behavior. Now i am taking a pill (luvox) who help to it.
If you are sure, your cat is okay, he/she was vaccinated and has no chance to get rabies but you still think in it. it could be something similar
yes, my mind keeps thinking about rabies 24 hours my cat is still alivr and healthy, she scratched me in my wrist part when i was toying with her, this cat is unvaccinated but i am certain it is not rabid because if she's rabid she would have died long time ago right? and this we always put a leash on our pet cats because we live beside the highway. this anxiety suddenly popped up when after 2 weeks ago when i watched videos of rabies patients in YouTube and reading different cases in Google! and after that, last week when i woke up, boom, i got obsessed with rabies it wont get off my mind, and my thoughts pretend that i am scared of air breeze and water but it's in the back of my mind i sleep with my electric fan on and drink a lot water and take a bath , i aint scared of these and remember these symptoms are on the last stages of rabies right? my body feels okay and i never felt ill or flu like symptoms , its just its so damn frustrating in my head that the word "rabies" won't leave me! im still playing with my cats though , i think this is mild anxiety, what are ur thoughts? :(
 

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Hey, Jay thank you so much. It's good to hear I’m not alone. I struggled with this one once in college and currently, it has come back with a vengeance probably because of all the stress currently.

I had trouble swallowing a pill on Monday and suddenly the unwanted thought that it could be rabies came because my cat caught a baby mouse a few months ago and I tried to save it. The mouse was healthy and neither of us got bit. I disinfected everything and wasvery careful. The mouse didn't make it but because I overfed it or screwed up or because it had been in the cat’s mouth. None the less I have been seeing symptoms everywhere and having physical symptoms that I know are probably anxiety but every time something else triggers them I spiral out of control and feel like I am losing my mind.
 
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Hi I'm new to this site so I'm sorry if I mess up
But I'm a 18 yr female and have had anxiety as long as I can remember. It makes me go completely delusional and right now I'm freaking out because I touched a cat who might have rabies then touched my eye (I didn't think it had rabies because my mom told me it didnt) but then I started thinking about it and i cant calm down. I've been panicking for like 7 hours now. Everyone is telling me that its not possible just by what I did but I still can't calm down. Even my mom who is a vet is telling me I'll be okay and I can't bring myself to believe her. This has happened so many times before. Every time I touch an animal that looks a lil different or sick I start panicking completely. My whole family thinks I'm crazy. I don't know what to do. And I feel so dumb for petting the kitty. This always happens but at first I never think it through. I can't sleep i keep thinking about this.
 

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Hi I'm new to this site so I'm sorry if I mess up
But I'm a 18 yr female and have had anxiety as long as I can remember. It makes me go completely delusional and right now I'm freaking out because I touched a cat who might have rabies then touched my eye (I didn't think it had rabies because my mom told me it didnt) but then I started thinking about it and i cant calm down. I've been panicking for like 7 hours now. Everyone is telling me that its not possible just by what I did but I still can't calm down. Even my mom who is a vet is telling me I'll be okay and I can't bring myself to believe her. This has happened so many times before. Every time I touch an animal that looks a lil different or sick I start panicking completely. My whole family thinks I'm crazy. I don't know what to do. And I feel so dumb for petting the kitty. This always happens but at first I never think it through. I can't sleep i keep thinking about this.
Been in a similar situation a year ago when a bat literally pooped in my eye (not kidding, this actually happened). In the long term it's always best to treat those fears with a therapist. But I know myself that in the short term (when the anxiety hits) that's not an option. Maybe consider a rabies vaccine? They work post-exposure and even if the chance of you having contracted rabies is pretty small, it will help remedy the much more acute anxiety
 

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Hi I'm new to this site so I'm sorry if I mess up
But I'm a 18 yr female and have had anxiety as long as I can remember. It makes me go completely delusional and right now I'm freaking out because I touched a cat who might have rabies then touched my eye (I didn't think it had rabies because my mom told me it didnt) but then I started thinking about it and i cant calm down. I've been panicking for like 7 hours now. Everyone is telling me that its not possible just by what I did but I still can't calm down. Even my mom who is a vet is telling me I'll be okay and I can't bring myself to believe her. This has happened so many times before. Every time I touch an animal that looks a lil different or sick I start panicking completely. My whole family thinks I'm crazy. I don't know what to do. And I feel so dumb for petting the kitty. This always happens but at first I never think it through. I can't sleep i keep thinking about this.
First of all, calm down (yea easy to say, not so easy to make)
-If the animal is alive it has no rabies.
-If you dont know if the animal is alive or not, disepear or is dead, it can die from other thing than rabies.
-If the cat does not has rabies then there is no rabies chance
-If the cat has rabies even with that kind of contact will be rare, rabies needs to be transmited via, mostly, saliva and a direct bound, via mucosa is rare, but if there is not contact with saliva the chances are low
-Its hard to say to someone to calm down, when he/she think his life is on risk i was on that situation.
-Maybe therapist will help (i am on a therapy now, and i think i am far better)
 

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Hey Jay, thank you so much. My fear of rabies started almost 2 years ago when a stray dog licked my finger (yeah nothing bit me) and a week ago i was out on a walk and i thought i saw bats (they were probably birds because it is pretty cold where i live rn but my brain wants me to believe they were bats). Since then I've been having panic attacks almost every day. Few days ago I found this website and this post. Whenever I feel really anxious i read this and it makes me feel better.
 
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Hi, thanks for sharing this.
About 6 days ago, there were bats in my lawn at night and ive never seen bats there beforehand and several of them were flying pretty close to me and really fast and it could have even been close to my face and now im so worried that they could've flown close to the back of my head or behind me or something and scratched or bitten me without me knowing or feeling it as many people say bat bites and scratches can sometimes go unnoticed and im so scared now that i have rabies, i checked later and i didn't see any visible bite or scratch marks when i checked but they can be invisible right? And i didnt check scalp so could the bite mark be there? I didn't feel any biting or scratching from what i remember but if it went unnoticed, i could have been bitten or scratched right? Im so scared, i have been having a sharp headache that comes and goes for like 2 days now and although my body temperature when i checked it was below 37 C, but i feel feverish and i checked and the initial symptoms of rabies are flu like symptoms and also i feel a little pain behind my ear when i softly touch it which could be the tingling sensation from rabies? and now i have severe anxiety as well which is also a rabies symptom yes? Rabies would be very painful and i don't want to go thru that pain, although my logical brain tells me no i keep thinking i should kill myself while i still can because if its rabies, the disease would progress into severe symptoms soon. Also even if i wasn't bitten or scratched, because they flew so close to me, could aerosolised rabies from the bats have infected me??? I never post in forums but im scared to death right now. Thank you so much guys. Also im not too sure how close the bats flew or if they even touched me but the more i think about it the more my brain tries to exaggerate and create memories and now im not sure which memories are true and which are not because the more i think about it the more i actually think i felt a bat bite although i know for a fact that, regardless of a scratch, i definitely didn't feel a bite, although it could've happened without me knowing but my brain is now trying to create a memory where i felt and knew that i was bitten, hopefully that made sense? Im terrified right now. I called the hospital nurse and she was very clear that without a visible wound that didn't draw blood, they wouldn't administer the vaccine.

And im also getting chills right now, i feel feverish and restless which are rabies symptoms but my temperature is below 37. Im really scared I have rabies and im going to die.
Hey Jay, thank you so much. My fear of rabies started almost 2 years ago when a stray dog licked my finger (yeah nothing bit me) and a week ago i was out on a walk and i thought i saw bats (they were probably birds because it is pretty cold where i live rn but my brain wants me to believe they were bats). Since then I've been having panic attacks almost every day. Few days ago I found this website and this post. Whenever I feel really anxious i read this and it makes me feel better.
I completely understand you brother. 100%
 
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i got hit by a bat during evening when i was riding my bike, i have insomnia and flu symptom now, doctor dont take me seriously, i dont know who to talk to, and i am scared of telling my friend and colleague

btw, i live in indonesia, theres a reason to be afraid, i made appointment with doctor tomorrow to get vaccine shot, btw sorry for bad english
 

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I got bit on the finger by my girlfriends domestic gerbil 3-4 weeks ago and since then the fear of rabies has kept me up at night. Im afraid of my dog, I cant be alone otherwise my anxiety sky rockets. The gerbil is still alive so it most likely doesnt have rabies. I live in the US and I never go outside because of covid so I dont have that much reason to be afraid but for some reason I still am.
Are you okay?
 
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