Pfizer is now FDA approved.

[Aries]

I don't understand this part, would you mind expanding?

Study: Vaccinated people can carry as much virus as others

In another dispiriting setback for the nation’s efforts to stamp out the coronavirus, scientists who studied a big COVID-19 outbreak in Massachusetts concluded that vaccinated people who got so-called breakthrough infections carried about the same amount of the coronavirus as those who did not...

apnews.com

When early field data showed that vaccinating people cuts transmission of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, researchers were cautiously optimistic. But they warned that many of those studies, although promising, took place before the fast-spreading Delta variant proliferated worldwide. Now, reports from various countries seem to confirm what scientists fearedafter the variant tore through India with alarming speed in April and May: Delta is more likely than other variants to spread through vaccinated people.

How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says

Emerging data suggest that Delta could spread more readily than other coronavirus variants among people vaccinated against COVID-19. But key questions remain.

www.nature.com

 

[Doug97]

Yes I've read all that already, it doesn't answer my other question either.

I belive in personal choice especially since none of these vaccines is a sterilizing vax.

So you wouldn't believe in personal choice if the vaccines were "sterilizing"?

 

[Aries]

Yes I've read all that already, it doesn't answer my other question either.

It does.

 

[Doug97]

OK! Mandatory sterilisation for everyone!

 

[Fraser]

I don't understand this part, would you mind expanding?

A sterilizing vaccine is one that eliminates the virus entirely from your body, such as a the small pox vaccine. The current Covid vaccinations aren't sterilizing, so some people use that to argue that it doesn't matter how many people vaccinated or not or to argue that if other people don't want to get vaccinated it shouldn't matter to you. The (wrong) idea is that vaccination rates don't affect transmission rates. This is wrong for a number of reasons.


1.) Your Covid will live for less time in your body if you are vaccinated or already have antibodies, and this mean there is a smaller window during which you are transmitting the virus. The science on this isn't 100%, but it's likely the case.
2.) Having the vaccine makes you less likely to get Covid at all. The science in on that and it's true. Being less likely to get Covid means being less likely to spread Covid. The Delta virus does not mean that vaccinated people are just as likely to get the virus. Nor do surging Covid cases in Israel.
3.) Hospitals and health care workers are being pushed to their limits by unvaccinated people. That means people who need treatment for other things have less access to healthcare and that their healthcare is diminished by the unvaccinated people who are responsible for this burden on the system. People who refuse to get vaccinated are also refusing to do what they can to mitigate this problem.
4.) Non-vaccinated populations mean more Covid transmissions and more times for the virus to replicate, which means a higher chance of mutations and new variants that will kill more people and have a chance of being vaccine resistant.
5.) High rates of Covid infections mean not getting to that herd immunity number and us all having to live with Covid and the fallout from Covid that much longer. "let's go back to normal" proponents like Aries don't even understand that they are advocating for making things worse for longer, not a return to normalcy.