Migrant PTSD

[janemariesayed]

Going with what's been shown on the news in recent months are the migrants from various countries fleeing for their lives in some cases. I am wondering if they will suffer PTSD with what they are going through at the moment with all the upheaval and violence that they are suffering.

I was in Egypt during the revolution they had recently and went through an attempt on my life. I was hit by a car and had my handbag stolen and left for dead at the side of the road. It left me always looking over my shoulder and I keep having flashbacks which lead to panic attacks.

Do you think that migrants coming to your country should have some form of counseling to help them adjust, or do you suffer from PTSD because of similar circumstances?

 

[Alex]

The thing is where is all this money to finance it all going to come from? Many places in the UK don't provide enough services for the citizens, and so how can they provide for refugees because that also involves interpreters. It's cost the UK billions and the citizens needs have been neglected.

While I sympathize, migrants are a different matter (I'm not sure if you have immigrants and migrants interchanged) as they have chosen to leave their country for a better job. They can always go back. Immigrants also choose to leave the country but must apply to live in their chose country. Refugees are ones that flee and must find refuge elsewhere and are more likely to suffer from PTSD. Migrants and immigrants less so, because they choose to go where they wish.

 

[janemariesayed]

Well, there isn't really the money to finance them all with the health care they need, let alone caring for their mental health. When I say migrants, I mean all those who are travelling to find a better place to live for whatever reason. I think they are all mixed up together, refugees are migrating so to speak. I think that they could get PTSD at some point as I consider what they are going through must be quite traumatic for them.

 

[Alex]

My line of thinking is that while I do appreciate that refugees have many issues, is it the responsibility of the world to look after them? I mean, the idea should be to stop the war so that the people don't have to be refugees. I know it sounds simplistic, but what is actually happening, all these people are displaced and countries are forced to look after them with no extra resources. I can see why many people are angry when they are homeless. unemployed, or are on a list for social housing, and suddenly these people get everything given to them including education and medical care.

Too many people have mental health issues in the UK and some literacy issues, so where is the funding to help citizens? My parents were both immigrants, and never took anything from the state until my father was ill in his 50s, and then a pension when they both retired.

You have to remember, while some will have issues, this is also a way for terrorists to get into a country and cause havoc. As Germany can see, the effects have begun already.

 

[janemariesayed]

You are so right @Alex, it is not the responsibility of the world to look after them. The sad thing that I can tell you is something that I was told while I was living in Egypt. I was sat in a coffee shop with my Husband and he introduced me to the owner. He was from Syria. He told me that his countrymen were leaving Syria because something was going to kick off. My Husband told me too that us foreigners would not be safe soon in Egypt too, because something was going to kick off there as well. This was all before the man set fire to himself in Tunisia. (Now there was a man with a mental problem!)

Knowing Egyptians as I do, I know that they talk about everything, they are real gossipers. This is also the same for the Egyptians who work in politics. They all chat and go to coffee shops and word filters down. It tells me that the Arab uprising was all planned. My Husband has even told me of the plans that they have for us, I'm just waiting for it to all happen and some of it is already happening. There are some genuine cases and I think the UK is already offering them counseling. I feel it is unfair, as I want weekly counseling for my own mental state, yet I feel that the care is going to them while it should be going to me.

Knowing the plans is also having an adverse effect on my anxiety. I am pretty scared to go out and when I see a muslim in the street I cross over or walk the other way with my head down. I know that is silly and some of them are wonderful people but this whole scenario just scares me.

 

[Alex]

@janemariesayed it is indeed a worry, and while I am not unsympathetic to the plight of innocent children, I am less do of the adults whom as you say knew about this and didn't do anything to stop it. They all know the west with their human rights policies will have to look after them and they use and abuse that.

I'm on a chat room and there is a chap who is Syrian and I have chatted to him for the last few years and he tells me that he chooses Germany because he get get everything fore free, home, job, education, and then citizenship. He stayed there and told us all what was happening, he went to work each day, and then when Germany opened the doors he decided to leave.

They do have guides on how to do it, what to say, etc,. so while I can sound skeptical you can see most of the refugees with smartphones communicating. You wonder how they are charging their phones and how they are paying that phone bill? As for my chatroom friend, he still goes online to chat and on Facebook, so I don't know quite how either?

 

[janemariesayed]

What they do @Alex is get involved with western women. They charm us and woo us, pay to take us out and make us feel like we are the most special woman in the whole world. Then they say that a family member has to have a major operation and they don't have the thousands to pay for it. It makes us feel sorry for them and we offer to pay when there is no dilemma at all. Then they marry us and con the rest of the money out of us. Sorry to say, but seeing this time and time again over the 9 years that I lived in Egypt, as well as meeting lots of Middle-Eastern people there, they were all the same. It's just the money that they want. They think we are rich and that it should be for them. I've been told that what they can't prise out of westerners they have the right to take what they want for themselves. I've seen it written in their book too. They all have wives in their villages anyway, they don't consider us westerners as true wives. The Muslims also want Muslim children. The only way you can be a true Muslim is to be born one. The rest I've been told are just 'converts' not true Muslim. Part of the plan is to produce children with western women so the Muslim population goes up.

It is a dodgy, scary scenario. I've been told they plan to wipe us out and take control of our Country by sitting on Council seats, and places of authority. This is already happening. When I lived in Egypt foreigners weren't allowed to take any position in the government or schools, as well as police or military. The Egyptian army are not allowed to marry western women and both parents have to be Egyptian.

I used to work for the Egyptian Embassy approved lawyer for the Red Sea, and I saw many cases of them stealing from westerners. I apologise for any who are decent people but they are few and far between.

My ex Husband told me I was the devil, every day! He told me I didn't have a God and was going to the fire when I die because I am Christian. Every day! I am even going to bring it up with my therapist because after 9 years I've come back to the UK and I'm a different person. What confidence I had before has completely left me now because I was squashed down as a person. I was placed lower than their women because I was foreign, and not just foreign, but English. It has really had an adverse effect on my emotional state. It feels like I was living in a 'Cult-Country.' It has added to my depression and certainly made me more anxious. I'm scared to be outside because I'm waiting for them to start carrying out their promises.

I used to live next to a make-shift mosque in Egypt that was run by the Muslim Brotherhood. I can understand Arabic and I know what they were shouting out over the loud speaker. The only reason why they respected me was because I lived quietly with my dogs and I used to chase them down the street telling them off when they dumped rubbish. My ex was always good about protecting me and was always to hand if I needed him. I was run down by a car as well, an attempt on my life. They had started to do that in the recent months before I left. They were driving into foreigners with cars and motorbikes. I'm scared stiff because I know they are going to start here soon enough. I'm hoping my therapist can help me to overcome that fear.

Another thing that I've noted, is that on returning to the UK and trying to find work, I have had to have a criminal record check done. No problem for me, I don't mind that, but I've been told that they can't do a check on me because I was out of the UK for too long and they can't check. This makes me very anxious because how on earth can they check out those they are letting in if they can't check out an English woman who has handed over ALL her documents since birth?