Legal advice about vaccines

[Phil10]

When are they going to stop this nonsense about double jabbed no quarantine? Just heard people double jabbed catching COVID so what’s the point surely in time countries will release two vaccines can still CATCH COVID

 

[Cuchculan]

It was talked about here too and rejected. Giving people who had the AZ vaccine a dose of one of the other vaccines to with it. It will never happen in this country. I think Boris is taken a big risk in the UK. Doing away with face masks and social distancing. Like trying to put life back to normal in the middle of a pandemic. Wanting everybody to go back to work again. I hope Scotland and the North of Ireland do it their own way. And not follow what Boris is doing.

 

[Phil10]

More counties like Germany to be added to green list. That means no quarantine for vaccinated or unvaccinated but still having to take tests on return. Progress maybe eventually the testing part won’t be required anymore.

 

[Phil10]

It’s a worrying situation that they can ask businesses for COVID certification to get in and the government encouraging it. My wife had one jab won’t have the second as she had a reaction in her stomach so she would not qualify for the app and would need tested by just having one jab this is very very worrying I fear this could last years?
France is going down the mandated vaccine route too could that happen in UK despite 87% vaccinated?

 

[Cuchculan]

Who knows how long this will go on for It will still be here into next year. After that we will have to wait to see if they come up with anything new.

 

[Phil10]

Who knows how long this will go on for It will still be here into next year. After that we will have to wait to see if they come up with anything new.

Does it worry you having to show vaccine status atall? Why do you think they want to continue this when the at risk groups are safe with the vaccine and very few are now dying of COVID?
Do you think they can mandate the vaccine and pin people to a chair to take it?

 

[Cuchculan]

Can't force anything into the body of anybody who does not want it. I do know they are knocking door to door in Australia and it has been mentioned in the US too. they still can't firce a person to take what that person does not want to take. It would be against his human and civil rights. Right now they are simply playing around with ideas. Even here in Ireland. They want to open pubs. But they simply don't trust the public. So they are talking about vaccine people only been into indoor places. This will be all done to the owner of such places. You own a pub, you would have losts millions already due to the lockdown. You will want to make that money back up again. Are you really going to want to ban people from your pub? It might be handed as an option to pub owners. You can open, but only if you do it this way. If you refuse, you are not allowed to open. But how about a nite club? Who goes to these places? Younger people. Were the whole vaccine passport might work for some places, it would fail badly in other places. It is all just ideas right now. They might try it. They might see it fails. Then they might just scrap it again. i think they are making it up as they go along.

 

[Phil10]

Is this the new normal? Lots of government control like Orwell film?could it be like this forever?

 

[ThankfulJen]

"Pro-Biden groups and the Democratic National Committee will work with SMS carriers to “dispel misinformation” in peoples’ private text messages." I mean, how far are they willing to go?

 

[Cuchculan]

Boris did say he was opening England up in full on the 19th. Let us see if he does that and what happens as a result of him doing it. Scotland will not do what Boris is doing. They will still remain on guard. Irish is going down something like the vaccine passport route. Mainly because the rest of the EU is doing the same thing. In France there is even talk of making people take the vaccine. Can't see that happening. Human rights comes into play there. But as long as Covid is out there and seen as a threat things will be like this.

 

[Phil10]

Are you worried by what’s going on in Europe? Mandated vaccines and denying people access for food in supermarket without a COVID test? I am already reading about pubs using passports and Premier League seems they want to cut off access to basic services. Why are they doing this when Israel used these passports and it never worked? I thought Wembley had issues at the euros so why would they want to stop unvaccinated going in?

 

[Phil10]

Johnston is demanding vaccine passports to to go to a gig football and night clubs. I started this topic about a legal challenge please advise me how I can legally fight this? I fear I won’t be able to work soon.

 

[Cuchculan]

It will take more than just you to challenge it. Bigger people than you will be the ones who challenge it. People with money. They will challenge it on the grounds of basic human rights. We are in the EU, so we go down the EU route. The UK left the EU. So you have to do what Boris says. But what Boris says has to approved first. Has to make it through a vote by the government. Then any challenges can happen. If it is passed, legal challenges will happen from various groups. You are in Scotland. Up there, you tend to go a bit of a different route than the English at times. So I would more be looking at what road Scotland is going down. They don't have to go down the same road as England.

 

[Phil10]

Yes I mean the issue is can any legal challenge be won? We have mandated vaccines in all but name. Something needs to be done..

 

[Cuchculan]

Can be challenged by various groups. If it stops the basic human rights of people. Like shopping. Everybody needs food. Can't just stop them getting food.

 

[Phil10]

Can be challenged by various groups. If it stops the basic human rights of people. Like shopping. Everybody needs food. Can't just stop them getting food.

I have spent all day mailing lawyers but good news I got on a high profile media outlet on tv today to discuss this. I can’t seem to find a lawyer one here a conflict of interest as they advise the government? Also chasing medical negligence for my wife..

 

[Cuchculan]

Depends were you look. I would have a lot at groups against the vaccine. Contact them. They might be able to give you more information. As for your wife? It was not forced on anybody. Granted nobody was asked to sign a consent form either. Normally you would be. That might be their downfall. Find a group against all of this and ask them to help you out.

 

[Phil10]

What quality of life can you have being unvaccinated excluded from everything! How can it be legal?

 

[Phil10]

I read they want vaccine passports in work places will this happen is it scare stories? I am worried jabs could be a condition for my employment?

 

[Cuchculan]

Considering Boris once said if ID cards were brought in he would eat his in protest. He was always against that sort of thing. Nothing has been passed through the British government as of yet. People would be againt it as they would see vaccine passports as been used to know everything they do. Which they don't want. So for now there is nothing to worry about.