Is Anyone Fixated on this Coronavirus?

dollhouse · Feb 19, 2020

^Absolutely.

When you take all known cases and deduce the case fatality rate from them, the number comes to 2.3. HOWEVER, the majority of the people who are dying are either elderly or have health conditions.

My mom is an epidemiologist in the San Francisco Bay Area and she's been telling me what a lot of health professionals have been saying - there are A LOT of mild cases out there that people are either shrugging off as colds, flu, or allergies and that the majority of these people will recover on their own with no complications. She also believes pollution and other cultural factors in China are worsening the severity there. Local politicians attempted to cover this up and did the bare minimum in the beginning but they failed and so the Chinese government took extreme measures in order to save face for both the 1.4 billion humans who live there and internationally (who they still depend on to grow their economic machine). The case fatality rate will likely go down even more once we start catching more and more mild cases. She also told me an interesting conspiracy theory that's going around (it's not the one where the virus escaped from a lab).

I'm not trying to downplay this, people are going to die from this, but this is not going to be an apocalyptic pandemic - this is going to be a wake up call for the world though.

Further, China's CDC released fatality rates by age group from a large study of cases (note, this does not include recent deaths):

source: https://www.vox.com/2020/2/18/21142009/coronavirus-covid19-china-wuhan-deaths-pandemic

blueberries · Feb 19, 2020

Right now I'm not too worried about it, cancer is closer to the top of my list of health things to worry about. At this point it's fairly well confined but not confined enough that there is no chance of getting it. And knowing it can spread before symptoms show is a little unsettling. But considering the # of confirmed cases in China (about 75,000) and the total population of China (1.4 billion) it's really a teeny-tiny number. I'm hoping that like most cases of influenza there will be a sharp drop off at the change of the seasons.

Iugrad91 · Feb 19, 2020

If nobody near you has traveled to China in the last few months this is a non-issue. Even if they had and don’t show any sign of illness at this point it’s still a non-issue. This is cold and flu season and lots of people are sick. They do not have Corona virus.

chickentender · Feb 19, 2020

Right now, I'm reading that kids seem to catch the virus least. I really, truly would not worry that you're going to catch this at work unless you're working in China or with people who have recently been to China or had contact with people who have...and this is extremely unlikely because people in this category are being quarantined. People get colds in the winter, this is normal, this is what you're seeing in your school. Everything CAN kill people don't take that headline to mean that we're all going to die of corona virus. More people are recovering than dying by far if you look at stats.....which at this point since it's spiraling you in general, I don't recommend. Not because it's scary, it shows what I mentioned, but our brains tend to take information and run with it on topics that amp up our anxiety.

Izthewiz · Feb 21, 2020

Ideally its best not to fear anything.
Exercise your mind to fear nothing.

chickentender · Feb 26, 2020

I'm not handling it so well anymore as I have 2 things going on healthwise- a vitamin deficiency that I'm supplementing for that I need to get rechecked in 2 months and a polyp that requires two procedures, one being a surgery. So, I know I will have to be in healthcare settings over the next couple of months.
I am having times when the stress of all this hits me and I feel like my head is going to explode. Then I get a stress headache and start worrying that I'm having various catastrophes. Today's was a panic attack about kidney failure.
We just have to do our best. I keep telling myself this. I just need to make the best decisions for my health and do what I have to do. If I get sick, I will do what I have to do. That's all any of us can do and it is the one thought that is comforting me in this time. Remembering that no matter what is happening around me or in my life, I just have to take the steps to do what I have to do. That will be doing my best and knowing that makes me feel a lot calmer.
I am also making sure everything is in order in case I can't leave home for a while as a result of any of this. That gives me some solace.

Certate · Mar 3, 2020

I read the Covid-19 is 10x deadlier then the flu that is going around.

I'm on edge daily and don't even want to leave my house, if I do its not in public...

Lanchparty7 · Mar 4, 2020

Rathgar said:
I was doing okay for a day or two, but today the media is non- stop about the virus and the fact that it is coming to the U.S. and we need to get prepared.
I had a panic attack at work - had to take xanax - fell asleep and just awoke and I am panicking again!
How are you all handling this?

Same...I calmed down after my initial panic but not so much now as there are now cases in my state...one of which was not from traveling...also there are people being tested and monitored in the county I live in. I am also stressing about other things now (mainly work) and I’m not in a good place. I see a full meltdown in my future if those people in my area do test positive.

Certate · Mar 4, 2020

I work with the public, I enjoy my job but don't want to go anymore.

Certate · Mar 9, 2020

Well, its getting worse daily.

I hope we are all prepared for this....

chickentender · Mar 9, 2020

I can't sleep tonight.

LittleMissCatastrophe · Mar 9, 2020

We are very worried here also. People here are very stubborn, and act like it's a laughing matter,and like other countries are stupid. If someone here contracts it, not only they will not quarantine themselves and go to the hospital, they will go around intentionaly spreading it. We don't have resources in our country to deal with the regular illness and take care of sick people, let alone something like this. Out government laughs in public statements, and tell us to drink alcohol. People are not checked at the border, and we had around 600 people come from Asia in january, and they too were unchecked. SO it's very worrisome to me. I know I talked about this matter on this forum a lot, and I am sorry. I don't think it matters whether virus is dangerous, it is socially responsible not to spread it. And people act like they just simply have to travel or go shopping right in this moment. I don't want to die because of idiots

Cuchculan · Mar 9, 2020

People might not know they have it for up to 12 days. That is how it is getting spread. You have it and show no signs of it for 12 days. The other 11 days you may be in contact with loads of people. We had a GP come down with it here in Ireland. How many people did he treat in the 11 days before he even knew he had it? they reckon the number could top a hundred. He even went to a hospital. Now you have a load of nurses on self isolation because of him entering the hospital as just a normal patient. Thing with him was he didn't know anybody who was in an infected Country. So they didn't treat it in the right way. Total botch up job. Now we have a second case who was not in an infected Country or knows anybody else just back from an infected Country. All other cases were either people who had been in an infected Country or knew somebody else who was. So they can trace the paths of all those infected with the exception of 2 people. No doubt it will get worse before it gets better. At the start of the flu season we had a lot more people down with the flu at this stage. You always get the initial burst of cases. Some are lucky not to catch it. Let us all hope we are lucky with this virus. The news never reports of every case of the flu. Every death from the flu. Because this is new it is over reporting. Telling us of every single case.

chickentender · Mar 9, 2020

Cases are growing and growing where I live. People have been ordered to stay off public transit and avoid large crowds now. I don't care who thinks I'm crazy at this point.

My household are protecting ourselves from other people because there just aren't the resources to handle this. Anywhere on earth honestly. And I do see people down playing and laughing and talking about conspiracy theories and it makes me very afraid.

My boyfriend just went out for an essential that we preordered from a store last week so he has to go get it now. We have an old box of masks that we wear in our apartment when we're sick usually to prevent spreading colds and some vinyl gloves too. We decided he would put on a mask (we know this isn't the suggested use, but the store is about the size of a closet and we are afraid)and gloves and ask if he could pay by check so he doesn't get money back or have to touch the card machine.

Since I have had issues with ptsd and anxiety, one of the things that makes me the most sad about my issues is that people when I'm anxious treat me like I'm a bother when those things flare up. But on the upside, I don't care what anyone thinks of me trying to protect myself now because I'm used to being judged about being cautious and anxious.

My state openly admits that there are many, many more cases than we know of or have the ability to test. Hospital workers were exposed by a patient who didn't call ahead and now have been quarantined. If others don't take this seriously and follow procedures, the best we can do is protect ourselves and stay away from them whenever possible.

When our groceries arrive today, we will be rubbing them down with alcohol before taking them in. We are putting a note on the door to drop our order outside.

JustMe · Mar 9, 2020

chickentender said:
Cases are growing and growing where I live. People have been ordered to stay off public transit and avoid large crowds now. I don't care who thinks I'm crazy at this point.

My household are protecting ourselves from other people because there just aren't the resources to handle this. Anywhere on earth honestly. And I do see people down playing and laughing and talking about conspiracy theories and it makes me very afraid.

My boyfriend just went out for an essential that we preordered from a store last week so he has to go get it now. We have an old box of masks that we wear in our apartment when we're sick usually to prevent spreading colds and some vinyl gloves too. We decided he would put on a mask (we know this isn't the suggested use, but the store is about the size of a closet and we are afraid)and gloves and ask if he could pay by check so he doesn't get money back or have to touch the card machine.

Since I have had issues with ptsd and anxiety, one of the things that makes me the most sad about my issues is that people when I'm anxious treat me like I'm a bother when those things flare up. But on the upside, I don't care what anyone thinks of me trying to protect myself now because I'm used to being judged about being cautious and anxious.

My state openly admits that there are many, many more cases than we know of or have the ability to test. Hospital workers were exposed by a patient who didn't call ahead and now have been quarantined. If others don't take this seriously and follow procedures, the best we can do is protect ourselves and stay away from them whenever possible.

When our groceries arrive today, we will be rubbing them down with alcohol before taking them in. We are putting a note on the door to drop our order outside.

It kinds surprised me last night because I wasn't sure if I had shortness of breath or just anxiety about my cough so I called the ER. I asked how long the wait was and I said I was calling ahead because I've had a cough for a week and shortness of breath and that I think I might have the coronavirus. The lady kinda giggled and said oh we don't even have the coronavirus here yet so there is nothing to worry about and no need to call ahead and just come in. Her response scared me so I juat stayed home. If not even the ER workers are taking it seriously what do we do? I bet everyone at the hospital has been exposed and they don't even realize it because of this type of attitude.

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