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I Had a Covid Breaking Point

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It's their business if it affects them, such as eating poorly or smoking. It's not their business if their choices mean that they cause other people to die, such as driving drunk. Choosing not to get vaccinated hurts other people and society at large and prolongs the pandemic along with tandem, wider consequences.
Or going to concert unvaccinated when having previously had COVID and choosing not to get vaccinated anyways. Oh wait! But they agree with others being vaccinated. So it's all good. Lol
 

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People who eat poorly and smoke take up hospital care and delay treatment for others too. I had to wait months for shoulder surgery a few years ago. And check out what has happened in Israel.

Israel has among the world’s highest levels of vaccination for COVID-19, with 78% of those 12 and older fully vaccinated, the vast majority with the Pfizer vaccine. Yet the country is now logging one of the world’s highest infection rates, with nearly 650 new cases daily per million people. More than half are in fully vaccinated people, underscoring the extraordinary transmissibility of the Delta variant and stoking concerns that the benefits of vaccination ebb over time.

Covid is not like smallpox. We will never eliminate it. We have to live with it the way we live with flu.
 

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Covid is not like smallpox. We will never eliminate it. We have to live with it the way we live with flu.
Do we actually know that yet? Serious question, not a challenge. I've heard of that as a possibility, but not as a proven fact (basically just one possible theory).
 

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Or going to concert unvaccinated when having previously had COVID and choosing not to get vaccinated anyways. Oh wait! But they agree with others being vaccinated. So it's all good. Lol
Hi Jen. Yet again, it's not a legal requirement to be vaccinated when going to a concert in the UK, and I was negative before and after. Lol.
 

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Do we actually know that yet? Serious question, not a challenge. I've heard of that as a possibility, but not as a proven fact (basically just one possible theory).
We have only eliminated ONE virus in all the centuries we have been trying to eliminate them. People have been buying into the false idea that we can just vax everyone and covid will go away and we can go back to normal. That's why they are angry at the unvaccinated. It's not rational.
 

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Or going to concert unvaccinated when having previously had COVID and choosing not to get vaccinated anyways. Oh wait! But they agree with others being vaccinated. So it's all good. Lol
No it isn't. It's not a good idea to go to a concert if you aren't vaccinated.
We have only eliminated ONE virus in all the centuries we have been trying to eliminate them. People have been buying into the false idea that we can just vax everyone and covid will go away and we can go back to normal. That's why they are angry at the unvaccinated. It's not rational.
I mean, no. The people that advocate for the science on vaccinations don't think we can vax everyone and Covid will go away. That's just a strawman.
 

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We have only eliminated ONE virus in all the centuries we have been trying to eliminate them. People have been buying into the false idea that we can just vax everyone and covid will go away and we can go back to normal. That's why they are angry at the unvaccinated. It's not rational.
I misunderstood your reply that I previously quoted. Oops. Haha.
 

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Hi Jen. Yet again, it's not a legal requirement to be vaccinated when going to a concert in the UK, and I was negative before and after. Lol.
If I were you, I'd stop responding.
 

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Hi Jen. Yet again, it's not a legal requirement to be vaccinated when going to a concert in the UK, and I was negative before and after. Lol.
Again. Not the point. Lmao Also, plenty of things that are legal that shouldn't be and plenty of things that aren't that should be. Been that way throughout history. Again. It's not what you did that I'm bothered with. It's people calling other people terrible people for not getting vaccinated but also being selective in who they deem terrible.
 

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Again. Not the point. Lmao
I just don't get the hate though, haha, I'm following government guidelines, but being subposted about on an anxiety forum? As long as people are following government rules, and getting vaccinated when they feel they can, then great.
 

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I just don't get the hate though, haha, I'm following government guidelines, but being subposted about on an anxiety forum? As long as people are following government rules, and getting vaccinated when they feel they can, then great.
There is no hate. How do you see it as hate?
 

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No it isn't. It's not a good idea to go to a concert if you aren't vaccinated.


I mean, no. The people that advocate for the science on vaccinations don't think we can vax everyone and Covid will go away. That's just a strawman.
I think that is what is going on in most people's minds. Here's a piece on why people must get vaxed. Notice where she says: "We are all eager to get back to life as before. "
She also says "No one has the right to infect others with a potentially deadly illness." which means we have to force vaccinations for flu and have eternal mask mandates.

In the 1905 case Jacobson v. Massachusetts, the US Supreme Court upheld the states’ authority to mandate vaccinations for smallpox. But smallpox has a 30% fatality rate so it's not equivalent to covid. And human rights about bodily autonomy have come a long way since then too. The due process and equal protection clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment limits the power of the state to touch the body.
 

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I'm not threatening you. I'm saying that I wouldn't bother responding to a poster who was following me from thread to thread with that kind of stuff. Do what you want.
Ah I get ya! Sorry, was one of those ones that the tone got lost in the text, haha, clearly being Scottish I read everything in a hostile way, hahaha. Thanks Fraser :)
 

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I think that is what is going on in most people's minds. Here's a piece on why people must get vaxed. Notice where she says: "We are all eager to get back to life as before. "
She also says "No one has the right to infect others with a potentially deadly illness." which means we have to force vaccinations for flu and have eternal mask mandates.

In the 1905 case Jacobson v. Massachusetts, the US Supreme Court upheld the states’ authority to mandate vaccinations for smallpox. But smallpox has a 30% fatality rate so it's not equivalent to covid. And human rights about bodily autonomy have come a long way since then too. The due process and equal protection clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment limits the power of the state to touch the body.
We will get back to life as before, just like we did with the Spanish Flu, which kicked around for decades after the pandemic. Vaccinations will help that occur faster, with less death and destruction. Vaccine mandates will likely not be forced vaccinations, but more along the lines of "if you want to work at X company, eat at restaurants, go to movies, etc, you will need a passport." People will still screech about their "rights" because they don't understand what their rights actually are.
 

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I am kind of the opposite…it is the vaccine and everything associated with it that has me more worried at this point. I just feel like something isn’t right about all of this and I will leave it at that.
I am completely terrified of vaccine. The more they push it, the more I fear. I have had covid and I do have antibodies.
Eat sh*t.


If it was your life I'd encourage you to walk in traffic. the dice you are rolling is for other people's lives as well, and you're just too stupid and reckless to understand that, so you have to be forced. Pathetic that it has to be like that, but that's where we are now.



Going 2 hours in the ER is not the same as the ER being at capacity, the hospital having no beds and people not being able to get treatments for their cancer or stroke as a result. It's called triage. Holy god, sometimes I forget how breathtakingly stupid people are. Thank you for the reminder.
Why do you have to be so rude when you respond on this thread. People are allowed to voice their thoughts not just you. Telling someone to walk into traffic is beyond rude and not acceptable for this site or any other.
 
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