Has anyone heard anyone explain how we are going to be able to walk outside of houses in a month or two?

[Rathgar]

I never hear what the next part of this plan is - so we lock away and wait for numbers of cases to drop.
So they drop. That does't mean this virus is gone - what happens if we try to go back to life as was normal.

 

[kristinelorraine]

i'm also wondering about this as well...i feel i'm not yet totally ready to come out when that time comes.

 

[bin_tenn]

The virus only lasts for so long outside of the body, presumably (I have no hard evidence and I'm not a medical professional) much shorter lifespan outside vs inside the body. If the virus can remain on some surface for 48hrs and everyone is essentially locked in for several weeks, the virus "out in the wild" will be long gone by the time everyone gets out again.

 

[JustMe]

The virus only lasts for so long outside of the body, presumably (I have no hard evidence and I'm not a medical professional) much shorter lifespan outside vs inside the body. If the virus can remain on some surface for 48hrs and everyone is essentially locked in for several weeks, the virus "out in the wild" will be long gone by the time everyone gets out again.

I read that is remains up to 17 days or something crazy. At least that is what they found to be true on the surfaces of those cruise ships.

 

[shezian]

Yes it has been found on the cruise ships 17 after, even after cleaning. On cardboard for up to 3 days, so watch what you get in the mail, always wear gloves and leave them somewhere in your house without touching for as long as you can. Sorry to say this is going to be a while before we can resume life as normal. They may take the foot of the break when the curve flattens to see what effect it has, but if it starts climbing again then we will be in lock down again. They are saying here in Australia that we will have a vaccine at the end of this year start of next year, so l can' see us going back to normal until then.

 

[Cuchculan]

Step 1 os trying to get ahead of the virus. Knowing who will have it before they even know. Step 2 is the new App they used in South Korea. Were people pair their phones with everybody they had contact with. Let us say a person comes down with the virus. He / she hands their phone over. There are all the people, via the App, they had contact with. Step 3 is getting in touch with all of these people. You keep them all indoors. By using this method you are now ahead of the virus. But for it to work everybody has to agree to use the App. Or else it is pointless.

As for it remaining on things and all of that? I have heard hundreds of various stories. These include that gloves are not actually safe and surgical masks do no good at all. Lot of conflicting stories doing the rounds. Every country should have a national health web site. I would only believe what I read on them. ( Unless you are American and Trump wrote it )

 

[bin_tenn]

I read that is remains up to 17 days or something crazy. At least that is what they found to be true on the surfaces of those cruise ships.

They found traces of the virus (e.g. RNA) but that alone doesn't pose a risk. That's the way I've understood it, at least. Again, not a medical professional, so I'm just making some assumptions.

 

[Izthewiz]

I think once a vaccination is made
life will go on.

 

[Rosie123]

It is correct that only RNA was found after the 17 days. That report was very misleading. RNA cannot infect you without the rest of the virus being present.
I'm in the SF bay area where we've been on lockdown longer than anyone in the US, but we CAN walk or hike or jog or go bike riding--as long as we stay well away from other people. I'm out there 3 times a day, two to walk the dog and a longer walk for me. If I see anyone out there, I stay at least 15 feet away. That should be OK. I don't see how anyone could catch it by doing this. Also I wash my hands very thoroughly when I get back inside.

Remember also that many people have this and have no symptoms, or have mild symptoms, or were sick and recovered. These people are all immune, presumably. The more of them there are, the harder time the virus has spreading.

 

[kristinelorraine]

but now they're saying the virus is airborne. they are suggesting people should start wearing masks. at least that's what doctors in China are saying.

 

[Rosie123]

The good masks are in short supply and need to go to doctors (and even the less effective paper masks). I wouldn't call the virus 'airborne'. It needs to travel in droplets; very small droplets are called aerosols. I am not sure how much evidence there is for transmission by aerosol, although larger droplets due to sneezing and coughing are a main transmission type. Transmission by contaminated surfaces is probably second most common.

 

[Aries]

I never hear what the next part of this plan is - so we lock away and wait for numbers of cases to drop.
So they drop. That does't mean this virus is gone - what happens if we try to go back to life as was normal.

Probably COVID will begin increasing again and things will get shut down again. But by then there will be more ventilators and masks so fewer people will die. Everyone should wear a mask if there are enough masks. Right now the health care workers have to get them because there aren't enough. It will probably be a year until a vaccine is developed and things go back to normal.

 

[guitarman65]

I like how the experts (CDC) arent sure yet about masks preventing catching it, only possibly helping from spreading it since droplets from a positive person would be caught in the mask. My question is this: then why are all drs and staff using them for protection, and are pleading with Gov to get them stocked (as they should). My opinion is that masks DO assist in pevention of catching it. I think they will eventually tell people that masks will help prevent it in the next week or so.

 

[shezian]

Make are effective and if you have one use it. Also, l think staying home is the best way to curb the spread, l know you have to walk your dog, but if you can keep going outdoors to a minimum is best. If we all did the right thing the virus wouldn't have a chance to spread and we go get on with our normal lives quicker. I don' t go out of my house at all and don't plan on doing so, until l run out of food which will be a while as l have stock piled on everything. The hardest part is keeping my teenagers inside as well, as they want to go out with there friends.

 

[Cuchculan]

Not going out is only to slow it down. To free up hospital beds. So they don't get thousands of cases all in one go. Which is still happening anyway. Only thing that can stop anything like this is a vaccine. It will always just be there. We all stay in and no new cases are reported and we are told we can go back out, there would be more cases in no time at all. These things don't just vanish.

As for airborne? You would have a much higher infection rate. It would be in your houses. Be everywhere. Masks might help doctors / nurses from over exposure to the virus. But we have seen a few deaths of people working with the sick. I am sure they were well protected. Just spending too much time around people with the virus is something they know is not a good thing. They try and shift change as much as is possible. Some people are wearing dust masks. Like a carpenter or worker would wear. Others are simply using scarfs or other similar things. Better than using nothing at all.

As is normal there is a lot of misinformation out there too. Might simply be a case of they just don't know as of yet. Learning as they go along. Some of still have to go out. If it was in the air we would have it by now. As would many other people.

They would also not be telling people to go for a short walk or a jog or even do essential shopping if it was airborne. It would be everybody stay in your houses at all costs.

 

[MarieLily]

but now they're saying the virus is airborne. they are suggesting people should start wearing masks. at least that's what doctors in China are saying.

I read that too and it scares me so much but upon further digging they are saying that it's airborne where there is high virus load like ICUs and overcrowded grocery stores. They said they found very little of it airborne outside of the infected patients rooms where there is high viral load but they found more RNA on the floor implying that it might travel further but it still overwhelmingly drops down. It's airborne under certain conditions. Keeping very far away from people should make your risk close to zero on open spaces. In closed spaces it's different and more likely to linger longer. But I don't leave my house because I am scared even after reading all of this

 

[jantheman]

but now they're saying the virus is airborne. they are suggesting people should start wearing masks. at least that's what doctors in China are saying.

i have not heard that suggested by any of the american doctors/scientists. i hope it is not spread that way

 

[kristinelorraine]

but the president is now suggesting we should all try to cover our faces with a mask, scarf or any piece of cloth.
i think it's actually a good measure to prevent the spread of droplets in the air. because when people talk, chew, sing or even breathe, some small droplets of saliva is released from our mouths.

do you guys think the coronavirus could linger inside the elevator? i live in an apartment building in nyc and i'm so terrified to step outside my apartment let alone use the elevator.

 

[Guitarist41]

We’re going to walk out with our two feet?

 

[Cuchculan]

Only thing is I got a message saying my virus protection ends tomorrow. I know. We shouldn't joke about these things. Think I originally posted that one when the virus was still in China. But honestly I do cover my mouth and nose with a kind of snood. No idea how good it is. But better than covering it with nothing at all. Have seen serious images of people with paper bags and plastic bags over their heads / faces. some of them would really make you wonder. One had one of those things people put on a dog's head. Cone things. No idea how he even got it on.