Fear mongering in my house

[Grace360]

With the emergence of the new variant its basically sealed that I want the vaccine. I've decided its the last straw basically so I'm gonna try to get it. Gonna be hard. My grandma and mom have fallen down the anti vaccine pipeline and they won't drive me there.
Here's what concerned that my mom said. Now I've looked up this vaccine myself and am fine with what s in it and the risks of side effects. My hypochondria taught me to think statistically so I worry less about something less likely to happen. Such as the serious possible side effects of the vaccine. So I decided I'd rather worry about those than worry about getting covid.
My mom basically said that if something adverse happens to me (god forbid) that she wouldn't take me to the hospital. Let me repeat. If something ACTUALLY serious happened that required me going to the hospital concerning this vaccine, she would straight up deny to take me to the hospital. Eventually I talked to her about it and she reluctantly agreed but still. It sucks that they can use their belief about the vaccine to weaponize my anxiety against me. My grandma in the other room was shouting about it being poisonous and to stop trusting the system and that I'm "playing with my life". My mom apparently had a friend that contracted Bells Palsy. Its all just.. ugh. This is gonna be harder than I thought but I spoke to my therapist about it. He says if this is what I really wanna do, find a way. That's what I'm gonna do.

 

[Phillies Phan]

Good for you Grace! It’s the absolute right decision. You are a smart cookie. It’s great to see you use those smarts to do the right thing for yourself. Remember, you are your own best friend. Not your mother, grandmother or anyone else..you. I wish I could come get you and take you for your shot, but I’m about 1,500 miles and a country away from Alabama!

 

[Jonathan123]

Yeah!! Well done Grace. You are you and old enough to make your own decisions. Any vaccination for anything can have it's minor problems. I have had so many shots in my life my arm is like a pin cushion.
But side effects nil. I am going for my booster shot tomorrow but I don't go with anticipation.
Millions in the UK have had it, and all my neighbours have. No one has had any side effects of note. Sore arms maybe, but that's minor.

 

[Cuchculan]

Good for you. People can think all bad things might happen to them as side effects. At worst, I had a sore arm for a day or two. Nothing else at all. Others just might have felt hot for a few hours. Just get some over the counter pills for headaches and the likes. You begin to feel anyway hot, just take one or two of those and you will be fine. The majority of people I know who got the vaccine had zero side effects at all. We had all heard so much about what might happen. Then you get it and nothing does actually happen.

 

[MATD]

I guess my vote would be for no vax at all. Since the recovery percentage is 99%+, I think I’d rather risk that 1% chance of getting Covid and dying. If I did get it and recovered, I would have natural immunity. I risk a greater percentage of dying every time I get in my car. I prefer not to put things in my body that are unknown and unproven. I don’t think the real results are going to be in on the vax for years. Every day it seems there are lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies and others for harmful effects of drugs, etc. I’ll take the 1% risk.

 

[Cuchculan]

I don't believe this was a vaccine debate thread. More about a person who finally decided to get the vaccine. She already had the scare mongering in her own house. I don't think she needs it here as well.

 

[Phillies Phan]

I guess my vote would be for no vax at all. Since the recovery percentage is 99%+, I think I’d rather risk that 1% chance of getting Covid and dying. If I did get it and recovered, I would have natural immunity. I risk a greater percentage of dying every time I get in my car. I prefer not to put things in my body that are unknown and unproven. I don’t think the real results are going to be in on the vax for years. Every day it seems there are lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies and others for harmful effects of drugs, etc. I’ll take the 1% risk.

I was starting to respect your views. When you make a comment like this, especially in responding to a teenage child, you come across as well, sorry, but stupid. Plus your stats are wrong, unless you’re an incredibly bad driver. I’ve been driving for over 40 years and I haven’t killed myself or anyone else.

You really should alter your response to an impressionable child. Shame on you.

 

[Jason75]

I guess my vote would be for no vax at all. Since the recovery percentage is 99%+, I think I’d rather risk that 1% chance of getting Covid and dying. If I did get it and recovered, I would have natural immunity. I risk a greater percentage of dying every time I get in my car. I prefer not to put things in my body that are unknown and unproven. I don’t think the real results are going to be in on the vax for years. Every day it seems there are lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies and others for harmful effects of drugs, etc. I’ll take the 1% risk.

I was starting to respect your views. When you make a comment like this, especially in responding to a teenage child, you come across as well, sorry, but stupid. Plus your stats are wrong, unless you’re an incredibly bad driver. I’ve been driving for over 40 years and I haven’t killed myself or anyone else.

You really should alter your response to an impressionable child. Shame on you.

I guess my vote would be for no vax at all. Since the recovery percentage is 99%+, I think I’d rather risk that 1% chance of getting Covid and dying. If I did get it and recovered, I would have natural immunity. I risk a greater percentage of dying every time I get in my car. I prefer not to put things in my body that are unknown and unproven. I don’t think the real results are going to be in on the vax for years. Every day it seems there are lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies and others for harmful effects of drugs, etc. I’ll take the 1% risk.

You are correct. It's all a big pharma push. They won't even releasee what's in the "vaccine"

 

[Phillies Phan]

You are correct. It's all a big pharma push. They won't even releasee what's in the "vaccine"

Fine Jason and MATD. Don’t take the vaccine. Test your luck. I couldn’t care less. Just don’t put your ignorant views on a thread started by a child. BTW sorry to say, your fearful leader will not be running in 2024.

 

[Jason75]

Fine Jason and MATD. Don’t take the vaccine. Test your luck. I couldn’t care less. Just don’t put your ignorant views on a thread started by a child. BTW sorry to say, your fearful leader will not be running in 2024.

Yes, I have a brain and can do my own thinking. Thank you for "permission" though. It made my day.

 

[Phillies Phan]

Yes, I have a brain and can do my own thinking. Thank you for "permission" though. It made my day.

We all have brains. Simple organisms have brains. How well they function varies from one person or creature to another

 

[MATD]

I was starting to respect your views. When you make a comment like this, especially in responding to a teenage child, you come across as well, sorry, but stupid. Plus your stats are wrong, unless you’re an incredibly bad driver. I’ve been driving for over 40 years and I haven’t killed myself or anyone else.

You really should alter your response to an impressionable child. Shame on you.

Can you guarantee Grace that there will be no long term effects from the vaccines? Who are we to undermine her mother? Cheering on a young girl’s decision in spite of her mother’s decision is wrong in so many ways. Are any of you willing to guarantee her choice won’t cause problems? You can’t, because you don’t know yourselves, no one does, not even the drug manufacturer. I stand by my post 100%. This is between Grace and her mother, who is her legal guardian, not us. It isn’t something to cheer about, it’s a serious health issue with grave consequences. Here is a young girl who needs serious mental help, she has already shown she is not able to make good choices, that’s what her mother is for in this instance, not us. To Grace, I’m sorry, it had to be said. Your mother may have more information about the vaccines than you do. She is older and wiser. She wants what is best for you whether you agree with her or not. She cares about your health and well being. A vaccine is not something you can undo if it does not work out. You are stuck with the consequences whatever they may be. Listen to your mother.

 

[Phillies Phan]

Can you guarantee Grace that there will be no long term effects from the vaccines? Who are we to undermine her mother? Cheering on a young girl’s decision in spite of her mother’s decision is wrong in so many ways. Are any of you willing to guarantee her choice won’t cause problems? You can’t, because you don’t know yourselves, no one does, not even the drug manufacturer. I stand by my post 100%. This is between Grace and her mother, who is her legal guardian, not us. It isn’t something to cheer about, it’s a serious health issue with grave consequences.

This post is getting more and more ridiculous. In case you’re unaware, there is a new variant which is sweeping the world. Where I live case counts are back up to levels they haven’t been at for 6 months and continue to rise.

Her mother, if what Grace says is true, and I have no cause to doubt her, is an anti-vaxer, anti-science person like yourself. Just because someone gives birth to a child, or gets custody of a child doesn’t make that person capable of being a good parent. Have you read the news recently where the father of that boy who shot up his school bought him the gun that he used? What a great dad, huh?

I have to keep reminding myself that you can’t fix stupid. But you can ignore stupid and for my sanity and blood pressure, I’m going to do just that and ignore your further dangerous rants.

 

[Grace360]

Can you guarantee Grace that there will be no long term effects from the vaccines? Who are we to undermine her mother? Cheering on a young girl’s decision in spite of her mother’s decision is wrong in so many ways. Are any of you willing to guarantee her choice won’t cause problems? You can’t, because you don’t know yourselves, no one does, not even the drug manufacturer. I stand by my post 100%. This is between Grace and her mother, who is her legal guardian, not us. It isn’t something to cheer about, it’s a serious health issue with grave consequences. Here is a young girl who needs serious mental help, she has already shown she is not able to make good choices, that’s what her mother is for in this instance, not us. To Grace, I’m sorry, it had to be said. Your mother may have more information about the vaccines than you do. She is older and wiser. She wants what is best for you whether you agree with her or not. She cares about your health and well being. A vaccine is not something you can undo if it does not work out. You are stuck with the consequences whatever they may be. Listen to your mother.

I don't make good choices? Well alright then. Not even the worst thing you've said to me anyway.
Also? Don't put my mother on a pedestal. What you don't know about is a little thing called my home life.

 

[MATD]

Grace I know what it is like being a teenager with anxiety. Just being a teenager is hard enough without the addition of anxiety. I also know that as a teenager I didn’t always get along with my mother and I resented her. It wasn’t until I became a mother myself that I finally understood the decisions that my mother made in my best interest. I can see your situation from a teen perspective and as a mother. What you perceive and what is reality can be totally different. I’m sorry you can’t understand right now, but someday you will. You aren’t the first teenager who didn’t agree with your parents, none of us did when we were your age. You can’t see it because you don’t have life experience right now. All you can see at this point is what you want, but as you get older, you will change. That’s not my opinion, that’s reality, they way it really is. It’s your attitude and anxiety that prevents you from making good decisions. The content of your many posts on here are proof of that. My only intent is to get you to think for yourself here. Once you take that vax, you can’t undo it. Taking it because your mother is anti vax isn’t a good reason. Did you stop to think that maybe your mom is a little bit smarter than you? Or that she is concerned for your well being? That she loves you and doesn’t want anything to happen to you? Having been a teenager myself, I know you probably didn’t. You want what you want and if you don’t get it, then mom is the bad guy. Typical teen behavior. This is a decision that should not be taken lightly. The technology in this vax has never been used on humans before, it’s uncharted territory. The long term effects aren’t known. I only say this because I care, I see your situation from both sides, I understand, I’ve been a teenager and a mom. I don’t say this to hurt you, but to get you to think. Once the vax goes in, it can’t be undone, it’s forever. And keep in mind that no body has perfect parents, but most parents do love their kids and wants what is best for them, regardless whether you believe it or not.

 

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[Phillies Phan]

Grace I know what it is like being a teenager with anxiety. Just being a teenager is hard enough without the addition of anxiety. I also know that as a teenager I didn’t always get along with my mother and I resented her. It wasn’t until I became a mother myself that I finally understood the decisions that my mother made in my best interest. I can see your situation from a teen perspective and as a mother. What you perceive and what is reality can be totally different. I’m sorry you can’t understand right now, but someday you will. You aren’t the first teenager who didn’t agree with your parents, none of us did when we were your age. You can’t see it because you don’t have life experience right now. All you can see at this point is what you want, but as you get older, you will change. That’s not my opinion, that’s reality, they way it really is. It’s your attitude and anxiety that prevents you from making good decisions. The content of your many posts on here are proof of that. My only intent is to get you to think for yourself here. Once you take that vax, you can’t undo it. Taking it because your mother is anti vax isn’t a good reason. Did you stop to think that maybe your mom is a little bit smarter than you? Or that she is concerned for your well being? That she loves you and doesn’t want anything to happen to you? Having been a teenager myself, I know you probably didn’t. You want what you want and if you don’t get it, then mom is the bad guy. Typical teen behavior. This is a decision that should not be taken lightly. The technology in this vax has never been used on humans before, it’s uncharted territory. The long term effects aren’t known. I only say this because I care, I see your situation from both sides, I understand, I’ve been a teenager and a mom. I don’t say this to hurt you, but to get you to think. Once the vax goes in, it can’t be undone, it’s forever. And keep in mind that no body has perfect parents, but most parents do love their kids and wants what is best for them, regardless whether you believe it or not.

And once you get Covid, and by chance it affects you seriously, you may end up on a ventilator or go home dead. Let’s see, trust a vaccine that better than 70% of the world has taken, developed by scientists far smarter than you or I, or hope you’re not the 1% who wish they had taken it as they lie on their death bed. Hmm. And that’s really a serious question?

Just because you were a rebellious teen doesn’t mean Grace or anyone else in particular is. Leave the girl alone. Yes she has anxiety. So do you. So do I. But she is making a wise decision and should be applauded.

It’s really time for you to stop talking. You’re making a real fool of yourself.

 

[MATD]

And once you get Covid, and by chance it affects you seriously, you may end up on a ventilator or go home dead. Let’s see, trust a vaccine that better than 70% of the world has taken, developed by scientists far smarter than you or I, or hope you’re not the 1% who wish they had taken it as they lie on their death bed. Hmm. And that’s really a serious question?

Just because you were a rebellious teen doesn’t mean Grace or anyone else in particular is. Leave the girl alone. Yes she has anxiety. So do you. So do I. But she is making a wise decision and should be applauded.

It’s really time for you to stop talking. You’re making a real fool of yourself.

I knew you could not possibly stay away from my posts. You just can’t help it, can you? You are drawn to me like a moth to the flame.

 

[Phillies Phan]

I knew you could not possibly stay away from my posts. You just can’t help it, can you? You are drawn to me like a moth to the flame.

No, like a fly to s**t

 

[MATD]

No, like a fly to s**t

Whatever, you still are here, aren’t you? You are obsessed with me, it’s quite obvious