Are schools really brainwashing children over lgbtq rights?

[Strawberry Banana Sundae]

My parents are strongly religious, and are highly against lgbtq rights, believing schools are using this “agenda” to brainwash and harm children. But are they actually right? I’m hearing from both sides of the political spectrum and I don’t know what to think. I’m pretty y’all are open-minded to analyze what’s really happening and how to settle it. Any suggestions?

 

[Cuchculan]

I would guess it is more been explained to people in schools these days. Once upon a time it was just sex education. A man and a woman. Times have moved on since then. So sex education is no longer just about a man and a woman. Could have some kids in school with two mothers. Others with two fathers. Nothing wrong with explaining how this can be. They won't be getting too graphic. Just the basics. Much like religious studies these days. Used to be just Catholic studies here in Ireland. They have now expanded it to cover all the religions. Because not everybody is a catholic. You could always ask at the school what they are teaching. They will be honest with you.

 

[ArgelTal578]

Whatever your views it is a fact that sometimes there will be same sex parents. Its probably best not to ignore that fact.

Is it being used as an agenda? Not sure. Possibly depends on the school. But I'd say as a fact some people are LGBTQ, so at least being taught about it is probably a good thing. To try and deny that it exists is naive. Whether the approach to teaching is brainwashing is a different discussion, and depends on the curriculum and what's actually being taught to them, and I'd say that's what you'd have to analyse.

 

[He Man]

My parents are strongly religious, and are highly against lgbtq rights, believing schools are using this “agenda” to brainwash and harm children. But are they actually right? I’m hearing from both sides of the political spectrum.. what’s really happening and how to settle it. Any suggestions?

My opinion, what is basically happening: the political Left wants homosexuality/transgenderism to be normalized.. and conservatives want homosexuality to remain marginalized. Homosexuals have already gained the civil rights/privileges that they were once denied.. so it's not really a struggle over 'rights' anymore. It's about societal attitudes. The Left believes introducing kids to homosexuality & drag queens, etc will make the kids more accepting of gay people. But there are people who don't want homosexuality to be accepted/mainstreamed. These dissenting parents recognize schools are targeting young, impressionable minds; and don't want that.

It's obvious some public schools have an agenda to make kids feel comfortable with homosexuality. But whether that agenda is right or wrong (or appropriate), is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Cuchculan]

There are certain things in Irish schools a parent cannot have them teach their children. An opt out option. We see it with religious studies mainly. As that is a subject in Irish schools. When it comes to sex education a lot of parents prefer to leave it to the teachers. Things have changed. So will what kids learn in these classes.

 

[bin_tenn]

It's used to push an agenda by people regardless if they are for or against the rights. Those who support it will take every opportunity they get to shove it in someone's face, and the same can be said for those against it. Every hot issue is *always* exploited and selectively discussed to push political agendas, and that's why I don't get into politics and all the labeling nonsense.

 

[Aries]

My parents are strongly religious, and are highly against lgbtq rights, believing schools are using this “agenda” to brainwash and harm children. But are they actually right? I’m hearing from both sides of the political spectrum and I don’t know what to think. I’m pretty y’all are open-minded to analyze what’s really happening and how to settle it. Any suggestions?

At this point they seem to be telling kids that they can change their sex and it's no big deal. That's wrong. It is a big deal and it can permanently damage a kid. I can't stand teachers anyway. I remember one of mine saying that there was nothing wrong with helping students get in touch with their sexuality. Pervert was justifying having sex with students.

 

[suzzeeb]

I don't get why schools need to teach this at all. I would not want someone else teaching anything like that to my kids. Teach them to be kind and respectful of everyone but leave that conversation to parents. My opinion.

 

[Strawberry Banana Sundae]

I don't get why schools need to teach this at all. I would not want someone else teaching anything like that to my kids. Teach them to be kind and respectful of everyone but leave that conversation to parents. My opinion.

I’m pretty sure why they do this is because some parents are disrespectful of these types of minorities, and these children are being influenced by this insisting that bigotry is acceptable, when it’s really not.

 

[Aries]

It then becomes a question of what to be tolerant of doesn't it? Shouldn't we tolerate different religious beliefs? That's where the OP's parent's views come from.

 

[MATD]

Here I go, but I’m ready for any backlash. God considers homosexuality to be an abomination. He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of that. He did not created man to lie with man. His command was to be fruitful and multiply, two men or two women cannot do that. The truth is there are many who like the perversion and want to be accepted in society. The same goes for pedophilia, there are those who want to normalize having sex with children and, yes, even infants. Their perversion knows no limits and they will push whatever they can to be accepted into society by trying to normalize their perversion. Not gonna happen. God will take care of all this upon Christ’s return. As He says, you are either for Me or against Me. He gave us the choice. In the end, it comes down to that. In the meantime we can make up our own mind and stand with God or against Him. In this current period of time we are witnessing prophesy come to fruition. Right will be considered wrong, bigoted, racist, or whatever accusation they can come up with. Wrong will be considered right and acceptable, such as pedophilia and homosexuality. You see, Satan appears as an angel of light, he’s trying to push this garbage down our throats and call us everything He can to get those who stand with God to waver, to make them question their stand on these issues. That’s how Satan works. That’s what is happening on a worldwide scale. Like it or not, truth is truth, it will stand the test.

 

[Aries]

Here I go, but I’m ready for any backlash. God considers homosexuality to be an abomination. He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of that. He did not created man to lie with man.

This is the problem. Some people's God says this and others say it's no biggie. Muslims can't draw their God, but that doesn't mean other people can't. Insteaed of teaching 'right' and 'wrong' schools could teach law and the origins of where those laws came from.

 

[MATD]

This is the problem. Some people's God says this and others say it's no biggie. Muslims can't draw their God, but that doesn't mean other people can't. Insteaed of teaching 'right' and 'wrong' schools could teach law and the origins of where those laws came from.

The laws in the US came from Britain where the laws were according to Biblical law.

 

[Aries]

The laws in the US came from Britain where the laws were according to Biblical law.

Homosexuality USED to be against the law in the US but that changed. They could teach the history and factors that caused the change. Is used to be considered a mental illness but then that was also changed.

 

[MATD]

Homosexuality USED to be against the law in the US but that changed. They could teach the history and factors that caused the change. Is used to be considered a mental illness but then that was also changed.

That’s a good example of Satan’s influence. Turning wrong to right. God does give us free will, to make the choice of who will we follow. I don’t think it is a mental illness but it is a mental issue. People are easily influenced by various factors, including personal experiences. God’s teaching encourages us to learn how to stand firm and discern between evil and good. We are in flesh bodies which make us vulnerable to the needs and desires of the flesh. Sometimes those desires lead us down a path to the destruction of our soul. Lack of knowledge of God’s true word is a big factor in the world today. God’s word doesn’t change or bend, but we humans think we know better than God. Very sad indeed, but all will be straightened up soon. Thank you for not bashing me but responding in an intelligent and thoughtful manner. I do appreciate that.

 

[Cuchculan]

In Ireland most of the schools are still owned by the Church. You would imagine Church owned places would be against teaching certain things. If they were to go on God's word. Religion is another subject in schools over here. Just like maths is another subject. I think with the whole issue of LGBT PLUS, it is more a case of what age you first say anything at. Mostly over here they wait until we are in secondary school. You would be about 13 by then. You are more aware of what is going on around you by the age of 13. Chances are some form of sex has crossed your path. You are starting to look at girls and notice changes happening to yourself. Something has to be said. Not all parents are willing to sit children down and have any kind of sexual talk with them. I do thing the whole Gay thing is more out there these days. It is not longer a hidden thing. In Ireland it was still a crime up until the 90's. Not that anybody was ever changed with been gay. With me it is more at what age should sex education begin at? You have some that want it taught in primary schools. These would be kids from the ages of 4 to 12. I do think that kids should be left alone and simply be allowed to be kids and enjoy that time. There is no need to bother them at such a young age with certain issues. Come secondary school is perfect timing. Then it is all about what exactly they should be taught? Sex education was always fine. The whole man and the woman thing. But we were taught that when they were still hiding the whole gay thing away. I see nothing wrong with telling them about same sex relationships. That is as far as I would teach them. I see no reason to go into the whole trans and bi and other areas. They added extras as I like to class them as. That can come at a later time in their lives. It is something they would hear about and can read about themselves, if they want to.