AM I A GROOMER

[Cuchculan]

No matter how old he is, as in above her age, once she is under the legal age is will always be considered a crime. I am sure he knew what the legal age. I know it sounds harsh. But by law he had sex with a minor. On the list he goes. Difference between the USA and Ireland is you make the list available for all to see. Over here nobody has a clue who is on it. Could be your next door neighbour and you would never know. If the sex involved a relative or family member and she may be known if his name is released to the media, most times we don't even hear a name at all in news reports. If she wants him named, she will be named too. Majority of the time no names are mentioned at all. So we have no idea who the sex offenders are here in Ireland.

 

[Aries]

I think it's ridiculous that a 3 year age difference lands the guy on the registry for life. Some states here have what they call Romeo and Juliet clauses that allow a 3 year age difference. But what horny 18 year old is going to hire a lawyer before having sex? It also seems really counterproductive to be raising the age of consent while people are reaching puberty earlier than ever.

 

[Cuchculan]

I do agree if sex is mutual. That is were they would ask about how much a 15 year old would actually know about sex. Some can be more mature than others. Have been a few cases here were people assumed they were with older girls. Met them at over 21's clubs. They had used fake ID to get in. We did joke, are you meant to ask to see a birth cert first? Then take out a form and make them sign it saying they consent to sex. Bit of a mood killer. Strange how I think they would still see a 15 year old as a kid, and a 16 year old as more mature. Lot of countries have 16 as the legal age. Here it is still 18. Though they were talking of lowering it to 17. Heck I know some 16 year olds who have kids. Then those kids grow up quickly and have more kids. Suddenly we have very young grandmothers. Is one family a few doors down from me were the aunt is many years younger than the Niece. That is modern life for you.

 

[Aries]

Whitehall study wanted age of consent lowered to 14 and sentences for sex cut

Girls as young as 12 'may not only want to take part in but initiate sexual activity', said 1979 Home Office report

Whitehall study wanted age of consent lowered to 14 and sentences for sex cut

Girls as young as 12 'may not only want to take part in but initiate sexual activity', said 1979 Home Office report

www.theguardian.com

I remembered seeing that years ago.

 

[Cuchculan]

Far too young. If that was brought in, for example, a 40 year old could have sex legally with a 14 year old. That is just wrong. But if she says she wanted to do it, he would not have broken any laws. Have to keep a bit of common sense in things. Where do you draw the line at who is still a kid and who is an adult? Be wrong to let kids just go out and have sex all they want, with whoever they want. That was why it used to always be the voting age used. Which is still 18. They did lower the sex age to 17. Accepting a lot of people are sexually active by 17. Some do want it lowered even more.

 

[Aries]

Far too young. If that was brought in, for example, a 40 year old could have sex legally with a 14 year old. That is just wrong. But if she says she wanted to do it, he would not have broken any laws. Have to keep a bit of common sense in things. Where do you draw the line at who is still a kid and who is an adult? Be wrong to let kids just go out and have sex all they want, with whoever they want. That was why it used to always be the voting age used. Which is still 18. They did lower the sex age to 17. Accepting a lot of people are sexually active by 17. Some do want it lowered even more.

Have you seen all the sex on TV and movies? Now you can go online and see hardcore porn easily. And now kids are reaching puberty earlier. What do you think is going to happen?

What about an 18 year old high school senior and a 14 year old freshman? What about a 19 year old guy who missed a year? But even with older men I just don't see why people have to be age nazis. It's an arbitrary limit that has been getting stricter for no good reason. I remember seeing that film "An Education" based on a true story of a 16 year old girl dating a 40 year old guy in the 60s and no one bats an eye. People used to marry with age differences like that all the time. And now we let 16 year olds decide to get puberty blockers which can cause permanent damage. A lot more than just having sex. Especially since STIs can be cured and pregnancies can be ended now.

 

[Cuchculan]

I do think society has changed. In some good ways and some bad ways. Yes porn can be got at the drop of a hat these days. Younger people watching it. Well you see how some of these younger people even dress. If you can call it dressing. More a lack of what they have on. But I do think with all of that came the issue with age. Years ago a younger person dating an older person would be fine. Life was much more simple back then. Age gaps were big in some cases. But today people are more PC about everything. That would also include an age difference that would have been acceptable years ago. Today if the bloke was older he would tagged as been into younger kids. Let us not lie and say blokes don't know this. They do and it can be on their minds when out.

You mention college / school. In the eyes of a lot of people there is a big difference between 18 and 14. These would view the 18 year old as an adult. The 14 year old as a kid. That is society for you. That 18 year old would not have it easy if seen with a 14 year old. That is how things are.

 

[Aries]

Some 14 year olds are more mature than 18 year olds. I remember another site that used to be active and this poor 30 year old virgin guy wanted a teenage gf. People called him a pedo. A lot of older men who date teenage girls do it because they are insecure and intimidated by women. I hate the characterization that all men are nothing but emotionless thugs that only want to use women for sex.

 

[Cuchculan]

Think I said much earlier on that it always seems to be the males who get into trouble. Even if it is a two way thing. The male will get into trouble. The female might just get told off. As if the male should have known better. Bit of a one sided thing. Though here in Ireland we had a female teacher sent to prison for having sex with a 15 year old student. I think she was reported by somebody else. Not the student. It was the first time a female was sent to prison because of such a thing. I seriously don't think you would have many males run to the police. That is another gripe of mine. Those who agree to sex and then claim they never agreed the following morning. That has just gotten out of hand. Going to have bring a form and get them to sign it in advance of sex.